Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!
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Credits:
Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
Sources:
www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/

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  • About 80% right. Good job.

    carlosfer2201carlosfer2201Saatler önce
  • Joaquin Phoenix’ Joker transforms Robin aka Jared Leto into becoming the new Joker 🃏 while the Real Joker perish. Jokes on Bats to lose his wonderboy by Robin turning into Batman’s greatest arch enemy.

    JNuTZ DBJNuTZ DB5 saatler önce
  • I bet the film

    Jeff LashombJeff Lashomb8 saatler önce
  • Theory: the joker movie is about Gotham becoming communists but is covered up by a man with a mental illness so the government doesn't riot

    Random Patotoe creature of the InternetRandom Patotoe creature of the Internet9 saatler önce
  • It's funny how my character ENSanity was always compared to the Joker with a kind of disgust. "You're just copying something greater!" or "Nice ripoff, how long did it take you to come up with such a stupid name?". However, I find such comments as compliments. To have a character I created back when I was just a child compared to one of the most iconic superhero villains of all time with thoughts that I straight copied him makes me happy. Over the years I'm glad that I could expand ENSanity to a point that people at cons actually seek me out and several have even asked if I was ever going to try and make a series about him. This version of the Joker honestly really made me smile cause it's the closest to ENSanity I've ever seen. A man who has crippling mental illnesses that is pushed so far he breaks. That's all ENSanity is after all. A person who suffered schizophrenia, unimaginably horrific hallucinations of torture and death lasting lifetimes, voices whispering cruel truths into his ears, and multiple personalities trying to open his eyes ever since childhood and now having lost what little grip he has on reality then giving into the madness. PS: Drunk, new meds, and the 1st anniversary of when my mother was confirmed to have terminal cancer. She died 01/15/2019, 4 days before my 29th birthday. So please excuse the ramblings of a drunk, depressed, insane, suicidal man.

    Fwazangalang EntertainmentFwazangalang Entertainment9 saatler önce
  • I HOPE THIS FILM THEORY MAKES MORE SENCE THAN MY LIFE.

    Ramune StudiosRamune Studios10 saatler önce
  • I relate to the joker too much. I'm also cast out by society, I've been stabbed and beaten at the age of 11, my parents have divorced and my sister died. I used to cry. But Now I'm Smiling.

    DromedaDromeda11 saatler önce
  • Cookiezp :3Cookiezp :312 saatler önce
  • Here's a theory for the new Batman movie: Arthur Fleck (aka the joker) has to team up with Batman, (Thor and Loki-wise) to destroy the real Villian.... Batman's grandfather, Arthur's real father, who is secretly still alive.

    Liber PoloLiber Polo13 saatler önce
  • I love the first 3 minutes of the video.

    Liber PoloLiber Polo13 saatler önce
  • With all due respect, a quick internet search and a reference to the DSM does not render you a clinician. Your view is overly simplistic and is doing a disservice to both people who suffer with Mental Health conditions and to professionals. I would invite you to consult actual professionals for such sensitive and important issues, to avoid contributing to misconception and misapprehension. By the way, Arthur was adopted, so your "hereditary" theory is already mistaken, along with the vast majority of your "analysis".

    DocZoidberg2011DocZoidberg201114 saatler önce
  • 3:19 What about John Doe? I think I’ve seen it in the comics. Or either it was the game.

    DavidoeV/// Roblox exposingDavidoeV/// Roblox exposing21 saatler önce
  • I don't think Joaquin's Joker was that "crazy", most people are just sheep. Us wolves understand him and can relate.

    Dowhat IwantDowhat IwantGün önce
  • And dead wrong again

    Dom WilliamsDom WilliamsGün önce
  • at this point, whoever makes up these theories is the real clown

    cadeirudocadeirudoGün önce
  • Now that I have seen the movie I can say, meh close enough.

    NMB :DNMB :DGün önce
  • At 5:17 does that bathroom tile look like it’s moving to anyone else?

    Bo LonerBo LonerGün önce
  • Did you notice? Arthur Fleck is right handed. Joker is left handed. There is clearly a developing condition of split personality. Watch it again. There are 2 different people in Joaquin's character. Their laughs are different too.

    Joe QuintanaJoe QuintanaGün önce
  • I noticed there was a part of a thing in one of your film theories you said, "The joker is a year older than batman AKA Bruce Wayne". But in this theory there shows Bruce Wayne as a kid while the joker on the other hand is noticeably without a doubt older than Batman AKA Bruce Wayne. But... HEY! It's just a theory probably a TRUE theory.

    Jaiden PradoJaiden PradoGün önce
  • Everyone who hasn't seen the Joker trailer: 100% Spoiler free? SWEET *clicks* 56 seconds in the video *Shows parts of the Joker trailer

    Jaiden PradoJaiden PradoGün önce
  • *SPOILER ALERT* So I actually watched this video and the other one before watching the movie, which helped me find some other view of the movie, and it goes like this. The Mother has a split personality disorder (Dissociative identity disorder/DID). The movie from the very start explains that everything is not how it seems, this is shown when Arthur and his Mother are watching the tv show together, and Arthur creates a scene in his head where he is in the audience attending the show live. In this scene, he is put in the spotlight and becomes the focus of the show. This fits perfectly into the fact that his mother's file stated she suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) as well as others. This scene created a feeling of self-importance which fits into the symptoms of NPD, now you might just say it's passed down from his Mother..however let's just say some of the scenes are true, Arthur finds out he is adopted..yes his Mother might of abused him but that would not link to NPD and the scene. Let's skip a little further to where Arthur then "kills his Mother". I'm not 100% on this scene, due to the fact that when he starts to smother her with the pillow to death, her heartbeat doesn't rise.. it just faints to flatline. This might be due to the lack of energy she has after the accident, but the way i see it is, Arthur..her personality trying to take over which makes sense since she just had an accident.. Which is very common with (DID), people create these personalities to protect themself's from incidents, alot like putting on a mask (or facepaint *wink wink*). There is also a scene where Arthur appears in a sort of "flashback" to when Penny Fleck is in the institute. Yeah, this could have just been Arthur re-creating the moment of the scene.. or this could be what Penny was truly seeing. This isn't relevant but it's similar to Mr.Robot. A man who see's his dead Father and often gets controlled by a made personality. Anyway, let's pretend Penny does have NPD..the question remains who is Arthur? Well I do believe that Arthur was her adopted son and had abused him, but there is some evidence to suggest he died. Maybe not from the abuse Penny gave him but by being hit by a car. There are two scenes that create this possibility. Firstly when Arthur is running from the police he gets hit by a taxi, yes it could have been accidental due to the fact he was running through the road like an idiot, however, if this is a vision created by the mind of Penny, this is one detail that slipped that stood out to me. The next scene was when he tells a joke on the tv show. The original joke was going to be his suicide (gun to the head), but instead he tells them about a son getting his by a car which also includes a non-literal death. Despite the fact he told everyone he was the subway killer, no-one jumped into to arrest or restrain him which makes me think this is another one of penny's episode. Previously "joking" about her son dying in a car crash. Often technique used by hospitals to help people with (DID) is to confront the issues and work past them. I think this is a good overall work though. She mentions the car crash, and kills off the tv-host. The tv-host could be a resemblance of coming to grips. The confronting affect. What next? oh yeah the police take Arthur away in the police car which gets his by another car. Which helps emphasize my point of crash-related death of her son. Last but not least, Arthur is in the institue where he is taking to a support worker within the institue similar to how he spoke with the support worker before it "closed". There was no context of how he got there which makes me think he never left, meaning she (Penny Fleck) never left. Penny Fleck was institutionalized with a disorder possibility triggered by her sons death. She want's to be noticed and sympathized by people due to her Narcissistic personality disorder and does this through her sons death, and when no-one does she creates a personality to try work through this buuut this is just a theory...a film theory!!

    SamSamGün önce
  • What are the movies from the intro?

    Guillermixmc MoralesGuillermixmc MoralesGün önce
  • Perhaps arthur is the father of the joker in dark knight rises. Thomas wayne and his wife died because of the riots created by Joaquin Phoenix joker. The fact that arthur fleck dies perhaps sends heath ledgers joker into a spiraling madness, because he feels Gotham is responsible for his fathers insanity. So and so forth. You get where I'm going with this.

    SIR WAFFLEBOBSIR WAFFLEBOBGün önce
  • Damn, this looks like The Joker is a rip off. Still a really good movie nonetheless. :-)

    Herr ThunderHerr Thunder2 gün önce
    • Herr Thunder i really hope its not

      H S SH S S23 saatler önce
  • I’m seriously impressed how much of an accurate prediction this was!!!!!

    Roman WernsingRoman Wernsing2 gün önce
  • Gottem

    matthew burdettematthew burdette2 gün önce
  • Wow, you were right with this theory!

    nbalive2408nbalive24082 gün önce
  • im beginning to freak out because i decided to pause the video and read the symptoms. i fit. all of them. And i dont always percieve reality as it should be. and my mother has scizophrenia. fuck. i literally fit ALL OF THEM im freaking out

    DᴏᴄᴛᴏʀDᴏᴄᴛᴏʀ2 gün önce
    • maybe you can preempt a detectable outburst by microdosing standard schizophrenia meds.

      utvara1utvara12 gün önce
  • After seeing the movie, this video confuses me. There was no mention in the movie of the protests being due to workers' rights. They didn't even start until after all the new articles about someone dressed like a clown killing some social elite teens on a train.

    ElegyForTheMassesElegyForTheMasses2 gün önce
  • Time never changed during the movie.

    Alexis GAlexis G2 gün önce
  • Joker was adopted film theory debunked

    LIFEBEINGBEST ,LIFEBEINGBEST ,2 gün önce
  • Welp him and the girls relationship were all in his head in the movie so I believe this theory is real

    KrazyCam10KrazyCam102 gün önce
  • Spoiled ahead... I guess you can say this theory hits Jackpot!

    Cesar MastineCesar Mastine2 gün önce
  • Did he forget about the part where all the clocks in the movie are not moving and giving the same time?

    khali linuxkhali linux2 gün önce
    • @khali linux that's crazy I didn't realize

      JΛMΛJΛMΛGün önce
    • @JΛMΛ clocks not working, each one stop at the same hour and minute

      khali linuxkhali linux2 gün önce
    • wait what...

      JΛMΛJΛMΛ2 gün önce
  • Do you realize how everyone would react if pretty much this whole movie was just Arthur's imagination, uhh yeah gay

    Anonymous GodAnonymous God2 gün önce
  • Missing clue!! All the clocks in the movie indicate the same time, always. Biggest indicator that this movie is all Joker's day dream!

    Patrick KubickiPatrick Kubicki2 gün önce
  • Ruined

    TychoTycho2 gün önce
  • joker does get fired from his job then kills the men in the subway,then kills mury, finaly spreads blood on his face for his smile

    Michael LovatoMichael Lovato2 gün önce
  • I have a theory that this was an og joker and an admirer takes on his role when he dies

    GruisepicGruisepic2 gün önce
  • There are many Jokers in this world!

    Nobby1304Nobby13042 gün önce
  • Wooow he got almost everything right before the premiere

    Laff SoapLaff Soap2 gün önce
  • And another one gone and another one gone, another theory bites the dust

    CaseyKCaseyK2 gün önce
  • I remember when I first watched the 1973 film Godspell it made me feel very uncomfortable, The Joker makes me feel the same way, in both films the main character dresses like a clown.

    ROBZTA MROBZTA M2 gün önce
  • SPOILER: well you were kinda right with the relationship between Arthur and that woman was all in his mind so you get points for that yay matpat:)

    Avishag KelhamerAvishag Kelhamer2 gün önce
  • U were right... U were right

    Preetham RPreetham R2 gün önce
  • imagine if it released back in 2016 during the killer clown scare

    OG_louDOG_louD2 gün önce
  • This is a solid theory. The origin of the joker is based on the idea but Arthur is not the real joker

    Charly TsuCharly Tsu2 gün önce
  • I have just seen the film, and thought that this film is 90% one man's dillusion......it is not realisitic

    Chris SheildsChris Sheilds2 gün önce
  • He called it lmao

    KonsciousKoonKiller 22KonsciousKoonKiller 222 gün önce
  • Lol

    KonsciousKoonKiller 22KonsciousKoonKiller 222 gün önce
  • Spoiler alert. For me, killing the other clown guy, the one that gave him the gun, or that he exists as the Joker. This is visible in the midget's reaction, proving the killing to be real. I believe pretty much everything besides the one talkshow scene in the beginning and the scenes with the black woman are real.

    KnightKnight2 gün önce
  • Yeah this video got it all wrong.

    Yaz0mb1eYaz0mb1e2 gün önce
    • most of his theories are wrong

      utvara1utvara12 gün önce
  • Correct me if I'm wrong but did u just say that the illness could be hereditary from his stepmother? Also variable handwriting is because of Arthur switching hands when writing wich can be seen during the scene where he writes this exact note "They expect you to behave as if you dont", the more scribbly and childlish handwriting is written with his (assuming he not Ambidextrous) non-dominant hand

    Captain KnucklesCaptain Knuckles2 gün önce
  • I wish my handwriting was that tidy

    Derp KerblerpDerp Kerblerp2 gün önce
  • Sudden Turkish Language attack on 6.23!! p.s.As a bilingual I didn't notice the writing in 6.23 was Turkish until my second viewing

    J. Kerim SJ. Kerim S3 gün önce
  • Superb Movie ❤ Enjoy this too: trvision.net/detail/video-0t95VrQAgf8.html

    Tharindu DissanayakeTharindu Dissanayake3 gün önce
  • Stop lying which yo OMG hes not the real joker how is he not the real joker but it's already in the theaters I just watch it it is intense

    Kenneth gamingKenneth gaming3 gün önce
  • Yeah schizophrenia is not the problem every one in the 🌎 being fucking assholes is

    celow bankscelow banks3 gün önce
  • Sorry, but this prediction was wrong.

    Nelson Camacho TiradoNelson Camacho Tirado3 gün önce
  • Is a Peaky Blinders theory coming up anytime soon?

    Mohammed AfraazMohammed Afraaz3 gün önce
  • Every time you said either one thing is happening or another thing is happening it was two things that ended up happening

    LittleBilly69LittleBilly693 gün önce
  • I would consider a potential for Schizoaffective disorder rather than schizophrenia considering the prevalence of both manic and depressive symptoms. They increased along at the same rate as his psychosis so it seems they are linked. Also, as is obvious, antisocial personality disorder as he progresses and states that he thought he should feel remorse for killing those men but he didn't. He states this while talking to the orderly in the medical records department at the State Hospital.

    HrothgrarHrothgrar3 gün önce
  • *Cough cough* he’s adopted *cough*

    NeoxteeNeoxtee3 gün önce
  • Penny??? Isn’t??? Arthurs??? Mom??? So how can it be genetic Unless that whole adoption/letters from Wayne spiel was a hallucination too???

    TLDJTLDJ3 gün önce
    • That's how Wayne covered up the fact that it was his child, look at the doctor's signature in the adoption papers and put two and two together if you know who that is.Wayne's not going to let it be known he had an affair when he's having political campaigns.

      Dowhat IwantDowhat IwantGün önce
  • After watching the movie..I can say well done 99% on point predicted

    Trilion InternationalTrilion International3 gün önce
  • But during the movie he has flash backs of what was real and what wasn’t. Bringing him to the edge to put out his fantasy thus creating the joker when he goes on tv.

    BannokCheeksBannokCheeks3 gün önce
  • Isnt it explained in the film that he laughs due to a severe tick?

    ZDM GordonZDM Gordon3 gün önce
  • 6:23 AS BAYRAKLARI ASS

    Mr ZornigMr Zornig3 gün önce
  • Your analysis of his psychiatric status is terrible. Of course, you are not a doctor, but that was just lazy and wrong. You cannot possibly simplify and make up a diagnosis like that.

    DomenicoDomenico3 gün önce
  • I had a feeling the entire movie was in his head from the start. He’s trying to convince himself that he’s the reason for Batman’s creation and not the other way around. The entire movie seemed like Joker was telling a story about HIMSELF but drastically dumbed down the evil shit to portray himself as more good. Hopefully they show us how he really is by starting the movie off with the ending of the first end. He looked a lot more sinister when he told the doctor she wouldn’t get the joke

    G VarelaG Varela3 gün önce
Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)