Half in the Bag Episode 163: Under the Silver Lake

Mike and Jay talk about Under the Silver Lake, which isn't Detective Pikachu.

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  • I think you guys maybe missed the bigger message. The LA Hollywood misogyny message is blatantly spelled out, but the bigger underlying metaphor is Garfield's realisation of what's important in his life and in a romantic relationship, with the culmination of finding what he wants in life to be truely happy. The old lady is a symbolic of an ex lover or even someone who he had had a strong connection with in the past who he may have let go due to some superficial idea about her image or sexual attraction etc. The topless bird lady see's him spy on the younger girl and she gets angry which is a clear metaphor for her jealousy as maybe an ex lover to Garfield. The following women he encounters clearly represent other relationships the character/writer/director (depending on where he has drawn these from if it's based on his personal experience or not) are all symbolic of the search for someone to find meaning with. He is superficially looking for love in all the wrong places, and his mother is calling him constantly trying to give him hints about this and point him in the right direction. After he finds that the Riley Keough character is in no way what he should be spending all his energy on, (her ascendance is symbolic basically of marriage or some other relationship status with another man which she has committed to and that is way above what he can offer at this point in his life), he watches the old VHS tape which his mother sends where the main character is confronting ultimate happiness and the fear that comes with it, because it's something she has presumably blocked herself from or been reluctant to open up to. Garfield's character has this same epiphany when watching the silent film, and realises the older woman (relationship from his past symbolically) is what he needs to be happy and goes there. Also she fully accepts him for who he is, citing his horrible smell which everyone in the film till then has not been able to tollerate. Acceptance for his personality, and he finally feels comfort and lets go of his superficial objectification he THOUGHT was so important to what he wanted in life.

    Pyramid AcidPyramid Acid21 saatler önce
  • Cool, I'll check this out based on this video. I love love love It Follows.

    Alex BaldwinAlex BaldwinGün önce
  • Is it just me or does the add it up - violent femmes song not sound the same as the original version?

    Matthew MelangeMatthew Melange2 gün önce
  • You didn’t discuss the Jesus pooh toilet scene :(

    GK_KnightGK_Knight2 gün önce
  • Great review guys! It was a decent film. Much of it felt very Hitchock's Vertigo, The Birds and Rear Window. Also the songwriter's home was the same historical building used in The Neon Demon, another film with a similar message.

    jonanjellojonanjello3 gün önce
  • I felt like the killing of the dogs represents the killing of females or the female spirit in Hollywood. That's why you have scenes where women are barking. Kinda saying how women are "dogged" in Hollywood! But I had a concussion in Iraq so I may be way the fuck off! 🤔

    Freddy KrugerFreddy Kruger6 gün önce
  • Whatever this movie was trying didn't work for me.

    goauld88goauld887 gün önce
  • watched it late at night and dozed off several times. thought the confusion was from missing parts of the movie but it wasn't.

    Unbelievable SpencerUnbelievable Spencer9 gün önce
  • Question for everyone: What is the parrot saying?? Oliver?

    Rick SanchezRick Sanchez10 gün önce
    • @iroveashe I checked the cast list. No one is named Oliver. 😕

      Rick SanchezRick Sanchez9 gün önce
    • Hah, I'm not the only one! I heard Oliver from the start and spent the rest of the movie thinking "wait are any of the characters named Oliver?"

      iroveasheiroveashe9 gün önce
  • Silver Lake isn’t dirty. It’s rich as heck.

    Tickety BlueTickety Blue10 gün önce
  • you should be eating Saltines with orange juice

    Dusty GroovesDusty Grooves19 gün önce
  • Those are some fresh kicks Jay. Nice.

    Trevor SchoellerTrevor Schoeller19 gün önce
  • The bluray of under the silver lake is actually out now on Amazon, I found out literally an hour after I bought the DVD. P.S. watched it 2 hours ago and loved it.

    CN ITBCN ITB21 gün önce
  • Rich white dudes, huh? 🤔Weinstein.. ohhh.. you mean...

    Harry ReitmyerHarry Reitmyer27 gün önce
  • Great movie IMO. As they said it has this sort of strange balance that makes it a great movie

    James CifuniJames CifuniAylar önce
  • I loved the Zelda references.

    Fun HatFun HatAylar önce
  • Silversun Pickups cameo!

    15awesomehighfive15awesomehighfiveAylar önce
  • i saw it at an art cinema here in mexico lol

    stories for the worms.stories for the worms.Aylar önce
  • The scene where the girl first walks past the pool with the Captain Kirk lighting was basically a straight rip off from Blue Velvet where Laura Dern's character is introduced by coming out of the darkness and into the light of the streetlamp... which was probably an homage to Hitchcock, but whatev.

    Nathaniel MatychukNathaniel MatychukAylar önce
  • Its ending saved it for me. It wasn't bad, but I don't feel like watching it again.

    Nathaniel MatychukNathaniel MatychukAylar önce
  • Mike saying "sonic the hedgehog" is surreal

    VoxCudaRadioVoxCudaRadioAylar önce
  • I watched this on your recommendation and after it ended I have so many questions unanswered.

    Austin TakashiAustin TakashiAylar önce
  • Magical realism = all of those Orphic references we didn't understand: i) The right eye of Horus as a portal to Orpheus as the songwriter is ripped directly out of a careful reading of the history of philosophy and the history of Greco/Egyptian culture more generally (remember. it is Bacchus, Orpheus, Pythagoras); ii) the sordid mysteries of Abrasax, Yaldabaoth and the (highly recommended) homemade Ambrosia of Eleusis; and iii) the disappointing realization that a careful reading of the aforementioned articles of history will only lead to a deeper state of confusion if you take it all too seriously.

    Jason HollomanJason HollomanAylar önce
  • Scott Pilgrim meets Eyes Wide Shut

    Cameron Robb-MacKayCameron Robb-MacKayAylar önce
  • I found it interesting seeing Spider-Man comics and figurines in the movie. Maybe alluding to Garfield being used up and spit out by Sony??

    Cameron Robb-MacKayCameron Robb-MacKayAylar önce
  • I thought the parrot said kill yourself or shoot yourself

    ThumbsLikeJesusThumbsLikeJesusAylar önce
  • Just watched it and loved it. My take on the Dog Killer: At some Point he's talking to the daughter of the murdered mogul and she basically sets dogs equal to unconditional love. I think he is a dog, because he follows all those threads to find the girl he loves without knowing anything about her. Also: Hollywood kills uncoditional love, henceforth he doesn't save her in the end … he settles for something else.

    PSFLKZPSFLKZAylar önce
  • I just bought it for 4.99 on youtube, or you can rent it for 5.99

    Skippy KSkippy KAylar önce
  • This movie is a master piece. And also it 's an important movie. As important as Eye Wide Shut.

    Schul LSchul LAylar önce
  • Under the silver lake could also be a metaphor for the silver screen, and the fact that there is a deep deep murky place behind that silver screen that drowns those who fall behind it. The screen is a silver lake basically I hope other people got that too otherwise ill feel dumb lol

    Sweet Robin ArrynSweet Robin ArrynAylar önce
  • i liked the atmosphere and the owl scenes were fucking terrifying. However i thought that Andrew Garfields Character was extremely unlikeable and the story didn't develop in a way i could make sense of it. I'm very much into Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks and Lost Highway and i am still struggeling to imagine why the movie has so many plots that lead into nowhere. At least that's my perception. I wished that they portrayed the detective work somehow understandable. I would have preffered if it was Mulholland Drive meets Brick. That would have been cool.

    Howlin' OwlHowlin' OwlAylar önce
  • Just got to see it in a theater and absolutely loved it

    Hazard RiderHazard RiderAylar önce
  • It's a travesty that this movie didn't get more attention. So many critics gave it painfully average reviews, when it deserved a lot more.

    PAYSON DAVISPAYSON DAVISAylar önce
  • Andrew Garfield is Percival in the search for the Holy Grail. Look into the Jungian analysis of this tale.

    Brendon WBrendon WAylar önce
  • Cult Classic in the making.

    Brendon WBrendon WAylar önce
  • Just watched this movie. I felt dirty and gained a migraine. Also, it made me hate the Amazing Spider-Man movies more than ever before. What happened to Andrew Garfield?

    Darth RubikDarth RubikAylar önce
  • 8:00 right corner

    ralitoralitoAylar önce
  • I really enjoyed this movie

    Joshua HarrisonJoshua HarrisonAylar önce
  • this film felt like it's admiring hollywood for it's beautiful artestry that can be achieved, and also spitting on hollywood for their bts practises. either that, or was super fucking high, because I kinda loved it... tho the last stretch was a bit too long..

    LE0NSKALE0NSKAAylar önce
  • I'm just like Mike where I actually try to understand the plot of a movie and Jay doesn't seem to care. The only thing you guys seemed to miss was that the dog killer thing came back a bit insofaras the hobo king thought he was the dog killer because of the treats.

    esotericVideosesotericVideosAylar önce
  • I thought the parrot kept saying "Hollywood".

    BlazeOMBlazeOMAylar önce
  • Ambitious? yes, good? eh, not really

    Omar KOmar KAylar önce
  • Surprised Jay didn't bring up Starry Eyes - definitely get those kind of vibes. Not quite the same, obviously, but it made me think back to it regarding idolatry, how Hollywood treats women, etc.

    Justin KrobothJustin KrobothAylar önce
  • Under the Silver Lake has moments of truth and hilarity especially if you live or hang out in L.A. Is it perfect, no but I found it very entertaining.

    American PancakeAmerican PancakeAylar önce
  • This movie is about a lonely, horny man who feels inadequate but doesn't want to think about it. It's really not that profound.

    Justin MitchellJustin MitchellAylar önce
  • Anyone notice the Amazing Spider-Man comic? It was a reference to Andrew Garfield, sure, but it gets more eerie. That issue is a post-Mysterio story that involves the first appearance of the clone of Gwen Stacy. That parallels a bit to the movie's story but also creepily to the theme. This movie was in production before the reveal that Mysterio would be Far from Home's villain. Nobody finds that ominous with what the story was about?

    RyanIsNerdyRyanIsNerdy2 aylar önce
  • I remember watching a trailer for this forever ago, then one day I just saw it was playing at the theaters. What a quiet release for the movie.

    jeebs621jeebs6212 aylar önce
  • I either hate this movie, or love it, or really fucking hate it Essentially it’s just a more “artistic” Freddy Got Fingered. None of the scenes have any weight, the main character is a terrible piece of shit, and in the end none of it none of it had any point. All of you people who are speaking about “oh it’s a BIG criticism of Hollywood” are part of the joke. None of this shit matters and I guess that’s the only true message of this terrible, yet incredibly well made movie.

    Willard SquireWillard Squire2 aylar önce
  • Pikachu were alright though, just saying

    EscapeRouteBritishEscapeRouteBritish2 aylar önce
  • 19:40 you’re obviously not familiar with “923” and other similar phenomenon. These things need to be hidden in plain sight in order to be effective.

    LJ ScottLJ Scott2 aylar önce
  • Jay described the film as Unique at 8:10 and I was looking up reviews for the film and came across one who’s heading was the word: Unique!! I read the word at the same exact time Jay said Unique! ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!!

    Jin LuncheonmeatsJin Luncheonmeats2 aylar önce
  • It’s actually kind of genius that A24 dumped this. I think that insured its cult status. The people who discover this movie will be vocal about it. It will find its audience.

    Alonso AndaraAlonso Andara2 aylar önce
  • the hobo king, starting David fucking Yow

    David MDavid M2 aylar önce
  • spoiler? The scene with Seven's daughter walking along the highway where he suggested the difference between killing a person and an animal, and saying it was not equitable, suggests he's not the dog killer. And then homeless shit talking I thought was half the reason for the king ready to kill him. The conspiracy mask hoarder may be the dog killer because he wasn't able to get a family or complete the map, to find "success." He was tied to the Owl murderer, maybe making him in that circle, also "beware the dog killer" being older and worn out on the coffee shop later in the movie might suggest it had a resolution.

    RHarackRHarack2 aylar önce
  • I still have no idea what is Under the Silver Lake is about, but it was fun to watch this review :)

    The Games NexusThe Games Nexus2 aylar önce
  • I watched this movie, and then I watched this review. I wish I did neither.

    Justin LeeJustin Lee2 aylar önce
  • I watched this movie specifically because RLM did a video about it, I saw it was free on Amazon, then came back and watched this review about it.

    Dominic MakoDominic Mako2 aylar önce
  • I’m pretty sure that all dogs represent women in the movie. That’s why they bark in it. Also the majority(if not all) of the dogs are owned by women too. When Andrew Garfield says his dog died recently, he meant his girlfriend broke up with him a little while back. The dog killers(topher grace says there might be more than one), are old white dudes. This is why in the dream sequence when you see the dog being eaten, it’s actually an old white guy eating it. At the end, when Andrew Garfield is saying how he wants to pet the dog, he wants to be with his old girlfriend. So the dog killers are white dudes who objectify women. That’s why at the end you’re not sure if Andrew Garfield is a dog killer. Does he objectify women enough to add to the problem is the question I think was trying to be asked. I guess it’s up to the viewer.

    Lynx GalaxyLynx Galaxy2 aylar önce
  • Don't worry, you guys didn't miss much, Detective Pikachu sucked ass.

    Mr. ManMr. Man2 aylar önce
  • I saw it for free on Amazon correct aspect ratio.

    japrogramerjaprogramer2 aylar önce
  • Thanks for recommending this movie it was worth watching !

    Will IIVWill IIV2 aylar önce
  • Mike: "Amazon fucked up there coding for the movie format." Me: "Amazon has a secret code hidden in there format coding for the movie about hidden codes!!! COOOOODDDDDDEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    KingPatrick 12KingPatrick 122 aylar önce
  • This movie reminded me a lot of Inherent Vice.

    Colby SchalkColby Schalk2 aylar önce
  • I loved this movie and actually the song writer scene just pulled me in deeper.

    R.J. MacReadyR.J. MacReady2 aylar önce
  • I watched this on amazon and the frame was perfectly scaled. i.e. I could see the black bars on the top and bottom. sorry mike

    ogramzyogramzy2 aylar önce
  • Watched it a couple weeks ago. I wasn't getting into it at all when I watched it, except for the awesome piano scene. It was too spastic and Lynchian, and one of those movies where there's a point where you KNOW there is no way they can wrap this up in a conclusive fashion. But it's so weird, different, intriguing, I kept thinking about it long after any other movie I've seen lately. It's not a "good time" but it's worth watching if you're sick of the usual.

    Anish ChariAnish Chari2 aylar önce
  • 0:47 mike drops the arrow and the bow, what a hack

    cheetahEARcheetahEAR2 aylar önce
  • Hey Red Letter Media guess what I just finished watching every single one of your videos ever just now.

    Thomas PleacherThomas Pleacher2 aylar önce
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      Ethan AmadoEthan Amado2 aylar önce
  • The symbolism of the Maiden , the mother, and the crone . Used through out the movie

    _ADMW_ Visual Portfolio_ADMW_ Visual Portfolio2 aylar önce
  • Yes ! I knew I wasn’t the only one to see it lol

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Half in the Bag Episode 163: Under the Silver Lake