Half in the Bag Episode 163: Under the Silver Lake

Mike and Jay talk about Under the Silver Lake, which isn't Detective Pikachu.



  • If David Lynch directed The Big Lebowski...

    Liam RLiam R11 gün önce
  • Awesome

    lance lindqvistlance lindqvist13 gün önce
  • Dude I’ve got homework I gotta do and I can’t stop watching you. Bruh I’m gonna fail.

    Sacripentia.Sacripentia.14 gün önce
  • So glad I watched it in cinemas actually

    carl hillercarl hiller15 gün önce
  • i watched it three times in a row

    citizentuckcitizentuck20 gün önce
  • the bird says murderer!

    citizentuckcitizentuck20 gün önce
  • Most movies from A24 are polarized like that, where someone thinks its some kind of masterpiece of it kind or someone thinks its total shite. I hate A Ghost Story with a personal deep passion, but I really like Hereditary and think thats a great horror film. Haven't seen this one but looks worth while

    Grayve RoseGrayve Rose23 gün önce
  • It did play in a few theaters. I saw it at Arclight Hollywood and loved it

    Justin HildenbrandJustin Hildenbrand23 gün önce
  • I saw Detective Pikachu 4 times in theaters but I'm a man child

    Bing BongBing BongAylar önce
  • 9:30 tbh, that was the case with It follows, half the audience hated it and the other half loved it.

    Trey AtkinsTrey AtkinsAylar önce
  • I haven't watch this film and get the impression it's a pretentious shite movie for assholes

    To much testosteroneTo much testosteroneAylar önce
  • So...I finally watched this movie less than a day ago solely because I was made aware of its existence by seeing that this review existed months ago and was curious to what it was. I physically rented a copy, so no visual issues for me, though I unsurprised to hear it was sabotaged in that way too. All told, it was an...interesting movie, but it clearly getting intentionally screwed over in its release is also not a surprise at all given its bizarre aspects and its condemnation of its focuses. Hell, at least it getting screwed over makes more sense than stuff that happens to things like _Annihilation_ where movies that can't be construed as a huge "fuck you" to a segment of society, like this "biting the hand that feeds you" movie, still get sabotaged. I'm sure it's almost all greedy profit-based stuff, but it still seems weird at times. As far as quality goes of the movie goes, I liked it overall, but I disagree with some of the shots. I also think the film could have been made stronger overall if The Owl's Kiss character was just cut out entirely, as interesting as she/it is, or at least not confirmed her/its existence, especially since she just outright disappears almost as soon she shows up. Then again, I suppose she could have been a hallucination by the main character at that point given you learn more and more as the movie goes on just how messed up mentally he may be, maybe even more than Hollywood itself. I'm still not even sure The Songwriter scene wasn't a violent hallucination beyond him getting to the house itself given no one else is around to comment on it during or later, even The Hobo King. I would feel the same way about Millicent randomly getting shot and killed, but Sam still at least has the bracelet as proof *that* was real, even if we never find out why she was killed or who did it. Oh well. If nothing else, then it was rather refreshing for the Designated Love Interest character herself point out at the end that the main character barely knew her at all and for his own obsessions to imply he thus had no real reason to care that much about her or her safety, even if she did lie to him. It's a bit funny that we don't find out if said lie was even intentional in the end, making it just another thing unrevealed.

    The DamnedThe DamnedAylar önce
  • Wtf was the owl lady

    inhaz nosnorbluginhaz nosnorblugAylar önce
  • Surprised that they liked this so much. Was pretty bad.

    Christopher MurtaghChristopher MurtaghAylar önce
  • This is my favorite A24 movie. Change my mind.

    Fred RogersFred RogersAylar önce
  • Under the Silver Lake got too close to the truth, so someone important made a phone call and made it effectively disappear.

    HappyfeetHappyfeetAylar önce
  • I think the old man on the piano scene was sort of a digression to criticize the music industry, and it's problems and how they relate to hollywood.

    HappyfeetHappyfeetAylar önce
  • Maybe Mike's aspect ratio was set to 16:9 instead of original.

    Max TurnerMax TurnerAylar önce
  • The Last Ninja ringtone was... cool. I guess? I enjoyed it. Thanks!

    John SheppardJohn SheppardAylar önce
  • I don't think anyone should be confused as to why this movie was panned and dumped unceremoniously with little to no attention. It's subject matter.

    T MarsdenT MarsdenAylar önce
  • I just hope there was one person that watched this review, ordered a copy of a Pynchon novel and was really confused afterwards.

    Kuba ToporKuba ToporAylar önce
  • 15:29 - Not white dudes. They're literally all jewish dudes.

    GamesAndPlanesGamesAndPlanes2 aylar önce
  • I think you guys maybe missed the bigger message. The LA Hollywood misogyny message is blatantly spelled out, but the bigger underlying metaphor is Garfield's realisation of what's important in his life and in a romantic relationship, with the culmination of finding what he wants in life to be truely happy. The old lady is a symbolic of an ex lover or even someone who he had had a strong connection with in the past who he may have let go due to some superficial idea about her image or sexual attraction etc. The topless bird lady see's him spy on the younger girl and she gets angry which is a clear metaphor for her jealousy as maybe an ex lover to Garfield. The following women he encounters clearly represent other relationships the character/writer/director (depending on where he has drawn these from if it's based on his personal experience or not) are all symbolic of the search for someone to find meaning with. He is superficially looking for love in all the wrong places, and his mother is calling him constantly trying to give him hints about this and point him in the right direction. After he finds that the Riley Keough character is in no way what he should be spending all his energy on, (her ascendance is symbolic basically of marriage or some other relationship status with another man which she has committed to and that is way above what he can offer at this point in his life), he watches the old VHS tape which his mother sends where the main character is confronting ultimate happiness and the fear that comes with it, because it's something she has presumably blocked herself from or been reluctant to open up to. Garfield's character has this same epiphany when watching the silent film, and realises the older woman (relationship from his past symbolically) is what he needs to be happy and goes there. Also she fully accepts him for who he is, citing his horrible smell which everyone in the film till then has not been able to tollerate. Acceptance for his personality, and he finally feels comfort and lets go of his superficial objectification he THOUGHT was so important to what he wanted in life.

    Pyramid AcidPyramid Acid2 aylar önce
  • Cool, I'll check this out based on this video. I love love love It Follows.

    Alex BaldwinAlex Baldwin2 aylar önce
  • Is it just me or does the add it up - violent femmes song not sound the same as the original version?

    Matthew MelangeMatthew Melange2 aylar önce
  • You didn’t discuss the Jesus pooh toilet scene :(

    GK_KnightGK_Knight2 aylar önce
  • Great review guys! It was a decent film. Much of it felt very Hitchock's Vertigo, The Birds and Rear Window. Also the songwriter's home was the same historical building used in The Neon Demon, another film with a similar message.

    jonanjellojonanjello2 aylar önce
  • I felt like the killing of the dogs represents the killing of females or the female spirit in Hollywood. That's why you have scenes where women are barking. Kinda saying how women are "dogged" in Hollywood! But I had a concussion in Iraq so I may be way the fuck off! 🤔

    Freddy KrugerFreddy Kruger2 aylar önce
  • Whatever this movie was trying didn't work for me.

    goauld88goauld882 aylar önce
  • watched it late at night and dozed off several times. thought the confusion was from missing parts of the movie but it wasn't.

    Unbelievable SpencerUnbelievable Spencer2 aylar önce
  • Question for everyone: What is the parrot saying?? Oliver?

    Rick SanchezRick Sanchez2 aylar önce
    • I think it might be "on y va", which is french vor "let's go"

      Hank DonovanHank DonovanAylar önce
    • @iroveashe I checked the cast list. No one is named Oliver. 😕

      Rick SanchezRick Sanchez2 aylar önce
    • Hah, I'm not the only one! I heard Oliver from the start and spent the rest of the movie thinking "wait are any of the characters named Oliver?"

      iroveasheiroveashe2 aylar önce
  • Silver Lake isn’t dirty. It’s rich as heck.

    Tickety BlueTickety Blue2 aylar önce
  • you should be eating Saltines with orange juice

    Dusty GroovesDusty Grooves2 aylar önce
  • Those are some fresh kicks Jay. Nice.

    Trevor SchoellerTrevor Schoeller2 aylar önce
  • The bluray of under the silver lake is actually out now on Amazon, I found out literally an hour after I bought the DVD. P.S. watched it 2 hours ago and loved it.

    CN ITBCN ITB2 aylar önce
  • Rich white dudes, huh? 🤔Weinstein.. ohhh.. you mean...

    Harry ReitmyerHarry Reitmyer3 aylar önce
  • Great movie IMO. As they said it has this sort of strange balance that makes it a great movie

    James CifuniJames Cifuni3 aylar önce
  • I loved the Zelda references.

    Fun HatFun Hat3 aylar önce
  • Silversun Pickups cameo!

    15awesomehighfive15awesomehighfive3 aylar önce
  • i saw it at an art cinema here in mexico lol

    stories for the worms.stories for the worms.3 aylar önce
  • The scene where the girl first walks past the pool with the Captain Kirk lighting was basically a straight rip off from Blue Velvet where Laura Dern's character is introduced by coming out of the darkness and into the light of the streetlamp... which was probably an homage to Hitchcock, but whatev.

    Nathaniel MatychukNathaniel Matychuk3 aylar önce
  • Its ending saved it for me. It wasn't bad, but I don't feel like watching it again.

    Nathaniel MatychukNathaniel Matychuk3 aylar önce
  • Mike saying "sonic the hedgehog" is surreal

    VoxCudaRadioVoxCudaRadio3 aylar önce
  • I watched this on your recommendation and after it ended I have so many questions unanswered.

    Austin ZahmAustin Zahm3 aylar önce
  • Magical realism = all of those Orphic references we didn't understand: i) The right eye of Horus as a portal to Orpheus as the songwriter is ripped directly out of a careful reading of the history of philosophy and the history of Greco/Egyptian culture more generally (remember. it is Bacchus, Orpheus, Pythagoras); ii) the sordid mysteries of Abrasax, Yaldabaoth and the (highly recommended) homemade Ambrosia of Eleusis; and iii) the disappointing realization that a careful reading of the aforementioned articles of history will only lead to a deeper state of confusion if you take it all too seriously.

    Jason HollomanJason Holloman3 aylar önce
  • Scott Pilgrim meets Eyes Wide Shut

    Cameron Robb-MacKayCameron Robb-MacKay3 aylar önce
  • I found it interesting seeing Spider-Man comics and figurines in the movie. Maybe alluding to Garfield being used up and spit out by Sony??

    Cameron Robb-MacKayCameron Robb-MacKay3 aylar önce
  • I thought the parrot said kill yourself or shoot yourself

    ThumbsLikeJesusThumbsLikeJesus3 aylar önce
  • Just watched it and loved it. My take on the Dog Killer: At some Point he's talking to the daughter of the murdered mogul and she basically sets dogs equal to unconditional love. I think he is a dog, because he follows all those threads to find the girl he loves without knowing anything about her. Also: Hollywood kills uncoditional love, henceforth he doesn't save her in the end … he settles for something else.

    PSFLKZPSFLKZ3 aylar önce
  • I just bought it for 4.99 on youtube, or you can rent it for 5.99

    Skippy KSkippy K3 aylar önce
  • This movie is a master piece. And also it 's an important movie. As important as Eye Wide Shut.

    Schul LSchul L3 aylar önce
  • i liked the atmosphere and the owl scenes were fucking terrifying. However i thought that Andrew Garfields Character was extremely unlikeable and the story didn't develop in a way i could make sense of it. I'm very much into Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks and Lost Highway and i am still struggeling to imagine why the movie has so many plots that lead into nowhere. At least that's my perception. I wished that they portrayed the detective work somehow understandable. I would have preffered if it was Mulholland Drive meets Brick. That would have been cool.

    Howlin' OwlHowlin' Owl3 aylar önce
  • Just got to see it in a theater and absolutely loved it

    Hazard RiderHazard Rider3 aylar önce
  • It's a travesty that this movie didn't get more attention. So many critics gave it painfully average reviews, when it deserved a lot more.

  • Andrew Garfield is Percival in the search for the Holy Grail. Look into the Jungian analysis of this tale.

    Brendon WBrendon W3 aylar önce
  • Cult Classic in the making.

    Brendon WBrendon W3 aylar önce
  • Just watched this movie. I felt dirty and gained a migraine. Also, it made me hate the Amazing Spider-Man movies more than ever before. What happened to Andrew Garfield?

    Darth RubikDarth Rubik3 aylar önce
  • 8:00 right corner

    ralitoralito3 aylar önce
  • I really enjoyed this movie

    Joshua HarrisonJoshua Harrison3 aylar önce
  • this film felt like it's admiring hollywood for it's beautiful artestry that can be achieved, and also spitting on hollywood for their bts practises. either that, or was super fucking high, because I kinda loved it... tho the last stretch was a bit too long..

    LE0NSKALE0NSKA3 aylar önce
  • I'm just like Mike where I actually try to understand the plot of a movie and Jay doesn't seem to care. The only thing you guys seemed to miss was that the dog killer thing came back a bit insofaras the hobo king thought he was the dog killer because of the treats.

    esotericVideosesotericVideos3 aylar önce
  • I thought the parrot kept saying "Hollywood".

    BlazeOMBlazeOM4 aylar önce
  • Ambitious? yes, good? eh, not really

    Omar KOmar K4 aylar önce
  • Surprised Jay didn't bring up Starry Eyes - definitely get those kind of vibes. Not quite the same, obviously, but it made me think back to it regarding idolatry, how Hollywood treats women, etc.

    Justin KrobothJustin Kroboth4 aylar önce
  • Under the Silver Lake has moments of truth and hilarity especially if you live or hang out in L.A. Is it perfect, no but I found it very entertaining.

    American PancakeAmerican Pancake4 aylar önce
  • This movie is about a lonely, horny man who feels inadequate but doesn't want to think about it. It's really not that profound.

    Justin MitchellJustin Mitchell4 aylar önce
  • Anyone notice the Amazing Spider-Man comic? It was a reference to Andrew Garfield, sure, but it gets more eerie. That issue is a post-Mysterio story that involves the first appearance of the clone of Gwen Stacy. That parallels a bit to the movie's story but also creepily to the theme. This movie was in production before the reveal that Mysterio would be Far from Home's villain. Nobody finds that ominous with what the story was about?

    RyanIsNerdyRyanIsNerdy4 aylar önce
  • I remember watching a trailer for this forever ago, then one day I just saw it was playing at the theaters. What a quiet release for the movie.

    jeebs621jeebs6214 aylar önce
  • I either hate this movie, or love it, or really fucking hate it Essentially it’s just a more “artistic” Freddy Got Fingered. None of the scenes have any weight, the main character is a terrible piece of shit, and in the end none of it none of it had any point. All of you people who are speaking about “oh it’s a BIG criticism of Hollywood” are part of the joke. None of this shit matters and I guess that’s the only true message of this terrible, yet incredibly well made movie.

    Willard SquireWillard Squire4 aylar önce
  • Pikachu were alright though, just saying

    EscapeRouteBritishEscapeRouteBritish4 aylar önce
Half in the Bag Episode 163: Under the Silver Lake