How To Get Rid of Rust, Restoring the Honda Trail 90 Sitting 37 years, pt3,
in this chapter of the honda trail 90 l picked up last year, we get to fix up the gas tank with evaporust and boil the chain in oil to clean it, plus getting the rest of the bike into shape,
Love your videos. Just an FYI you might try some other time on a rusty tank. Use about 1/2 gal diesel fuel and a good handful or 2 of smaller nuts inside. Plug up all the holes and put the cap on and shake shake shake. The reason for the diesel fuel is it will suspend the rust flakes so when you empty it the rust comes out with it. Ive done this and works very nice. When done rinse with Rubbing alcohol it does an amazing job.
When your pooch finds out you burnt it's favorite bowl there is going to be treats to pay!
Apple cider vinegar for rusted tanks
l left evapo-rust in fro 2 day's and no damaged happened but a spotless tank
First off...let me say I love your truck! The first video I watched with you looking out its window I knew I would subscribe! Haha! Anyway. I've also got an old ct 90 in much worse shape than yours sadly but they are ok to restore. I've done 3 or 4 now. The last one I simplified by adding a new lifan engine amd 12 volt electrics etc. I haven't decided which way I'm going on this one but Im old so I might do the same again! Even so you have lots of great stuff there...an intact original carb, nacelle, and airbox! Nice find. Worth restoring to runner. On mine last one I kept it fairly stock looking but this one I'm going to swap out a new seat cos I have long legs and my left leg is currently a bit damaged! Good luck with your projects! Great stuff..
This is my favorite cooking channel.
For doing the shake and bake thing on steel tanks I usually use lead shot inside and shake it around. It has worked well for me so far, but sometimes it takes a bit to get all the bb's out.
I need the little black bracket and bolt on your tanks for my seat! I cant find them for a reasonable price.
you should look on ebay for those chinese endoscope cameras with lights, that connect to your cell phone, for videos inside a fuel tank etc.
Acetone would get that paint off the rear wheel in a flash...
evapo-rust works really well. dipped a rusty cast iron carburetor base and the next day it looked brand new after.
Hey Mustie when you worked pn the ct90 did you have to replace the clutch discs? i have a ct110 1980 model my kick starter is slipping
So, if heat + OIl = varnish, why would you do that to the chain? Soaking in warm kerosene, maybe, but oil?
7:25 looks like you lost the rubber on the tip of your gun. Careful, or we might be seeing little Musties in about eight months! Speaking of rubber, don't chains come with little o-rings, and won't the heat compromise those? That handlebar switch near the throttle, 3D printing with ABS filament would probably work. Just need a 3D scanner, then add in the missing area in Fusion 360 or other software.
If you use electrolysis to remove rust, you don't have to keep buying anything. And you clearly deal with more rust than most of us! Keep up the great work!
Mustie the Chain Chef 😂
Mustie1 What Model/Brand is your lift? Thanks
It is 30 dollars at O'Rileys
Put red kote in it
Mustie1 I use Kreem gas tank liner once all the loose rust is removed.
For some reason you remind me of Steve1989MREInfo so much. I think it's the voice.
Try some pea shaped gravel ,put into tank and shake to get to rust in hard to get areas ,don't forget to count them so none get left behind, then apply tank sealer, a petrol proof resin which sets hard and also seals any pin prick holes.
Gas tank dust.... Dont breath this. XD
Good call blowing the water out of the tank after washing out. When I used evaporust on a tank, it worked well to clean out the rust but then when I let it sit and air dry, it rusted up again...
At the end of the video that vw pickup, WOW! I especially love the paint tray air scoops. Now that's thinking out of the box. A great "getty up slow down the road ride". Brings back lots of memories.
I think Wolfsburg West is offering those gutter heater tubes now
Instead of shaking, why not use a shop vac to clean it out?
I think your bench grinder needs to be your next project.....
Boiled in oil...god I love the internet !
I noticed you use WD-40 often, I was recently watching another favorite channel of mine called Abom79 and he was using WD-40 rust remover. I wonder how that would fit you needs. You have inspired me to work on some of my old junk, I recently finished an old (25 year) chainsaw and successfully managed to get it working, and I wanted to let you know that you are an absolute joy to watch and wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Damn youtube, the non-optional keyboard controls, and comment WIP non-permanence! Can't recall my long comment, too tired, start from where I left off. No, it won't harm steel from prolonged soaking, it only affects rust. (though it does bring carbon to the surface of hardened steel) Thanks for the fun!
Musty you crazy trying to save that tank. Rust has gone to your head Haha.
Red coat gas tank sealer
the speedo bulb might fit with one from a puch :)
mmmmm, deep fried chain.
My old 1973 Honda 754cc motorcycle had a headlight you have to change the whole headlight. Hard to carry a spare bulb on a long trip when it the whole headlight. I have had the headlight burn out riding in the dark late night. And way out in the country with no street light to see around you. So i had to ride it back home in pure darkness.
Mustie1 , Knowing you, I know this Honda Trail 90 will have a good new life again ♥ The Honda Trail 90 is one of my all time favorite motorcycles so I am very much looking forward to seeing the successful completion of this project. I am sure many people will offer to buy it when you are done if you do not want to keep it for yourself :)
Another youtuber...used some paper towels inside of the clean wet gas tank and then used compressed air to "dance the cloths" around therefore wiping and drying the inside of the confines of the gas tank.
thanks to mustie and the subscriber for the tip about the evapo-rust. saved me $350 and a month of waiting for a new motorcycle tank. it's a bit pricey, but worth it.
I think a K90 is a much better idea...
For cost effective rust removal simply put White-OX 1483205 1 lbs Rust Remover Crystals at one scoop (60cc) per gallon of water. It is simply Oxalic acid in crystal form. Cost is only about $14.00 to $16,00 USD for a one pound container of crystals at Ace Hardware or Walmart. Way cheaper than Evaporust at $17.00 USD per gallon. Only eats the iron oxide (rust) and will not remove chrome plating... It is used on fiberglass boats to remove rust stains from gelcoat without harming the fiberglass gelcoat. Will not harm painted surfaces. Can also use it in liquid form to spot remove rust stains from clothing when applied just before putting clothes into washing machine.
Correction use 4 scoops (60cc) per gallon of water.
Thanks for the quick view on the VW.
Others have mentioned it, but I'll put in my two cents: You can leave the Evapo-Rust in that tank far longer. Not going to hurt anything other than the rust. If you can provide a source of warmth to it, it works quicker too. I've thought about setting up a vat with an aquarium heater, but never really needed to. All those saying it's just an expensive diluted acid, it's not. It uses a process called chelation to remove the rust. If you look that up, best I can describe it, it's basically forming ionic bonds with the rust to remove it from the steel. Best part about this stuff is in the end, it typically doesn't harm paint (unless the paint was lousy to being with), you don't need to neutralize it to stop it from eating away the good metal like you would with an acid, or caustic de-rusting agent, and you don't need a hazmat team to dispose of it once it's spent.
It would have been interesting to weigh each of them, cleaned and dried, to see how much steel has gone from the original tank ... also the way I was taught to assess chain wear was to fold the chain in half , hold the free ends and hold the chain horizontally. More than about 4" deflection and you would consider replacing the chain.
How did you like the Evap O Rust? I've seen the guy on Hand Tool Rescue use it and it looks like pretty good stuff.
18:52 that's really dangerous. I had a school teacher that ruined his arm by doing that exact thing.
the color of moon glass!
Eastwood motorcycle gas tank sealer kit, cleans, etches, and seals. $33.00, easy to use and works perfectly.
Get a honda xr560r to ceep an play with
The Evapo - Rust website has a video on painted items - looks like it works well and saves the paint.
I've saved some stuff over the years but the muffler you saved was epic on this . , I learn on small carbs every time you save one 😉
Hi Mustie...have you ever tried POR15 gas tank sealer?
Thanks to David in Canada!
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I knew you’d get it!
Curious if a magnet would help pull the particulate rust out of solution...
In the uk I used Putoline chain wax that was in a round tin that you put your chain into and heat it up! Worked awesome on my gpz900r chain back in the 90s!
Satisfying watching that paint come off the wheel to see that chrome. I have a 69 Beetle. Any recommendations to get a little surface rust off the body? Would like to spot prime and paint all rust spots and then get the whole car painted. Thanks.
I love the smell of deep fried chain and citrus paint stripper in the morning.
That expensive rust remover, is sodium hydroxide (lye) or citric acid or phosphoric acid based. All are dirt cheap to buy as a chemical.
It isn't acid based. I've had it all over my hands, and it basically feels like a detergent. I've had painted parts in it for days on end, to no ill effect. It uses a process called chelation to remove the rust.
Try MC-51 Rust Remover. I hear it works very good and is now available to be shipped in the United States.
Back in the 70s, we conditioned our chains by soaking them in a pan of STP (do they still sell STP?) and then heating it up like you did. The STP would stick to the chain where oil would get flung off.
The old garage shop was better.
Mustie it’s cheaper to shit a package to the states and back then it is to ship something across Canada
Thanks mustie1 great birthday video. Your shop is bad ass and you teach us all a lot thanks for that
Love the citristrip best paint stripper I've tried.
Blimey!. What would I give to have a wharehouse to work in.
TELL JASON rain gutters are for houses not heaters. ha ha. THat is funnier than the paint tray air scoops.
Those Canadians are so darned nice. Good on ya Dave!
I used malt vinegar and over 4 days cleaned a tank amazing and was like £5 too