How To Get Rid of Rust, Restoring the Honda Trail 90 Sitting 37 years, pt3,
in this chapter of the honda trail 90 l picked up last year, we get to fix up the gas tank with evaporust and boil the chain in oil to clean it, plus getting the rest of the bike into shape,
7:25 looks like you lost the rubber on the tip of your gun. Careful, or we might be seeing little Musties in about eight months! Speaking of rubber, don't chains come with little o-rings, and won't the heat compromise those? That handlebar switch near the throttle, 3D printing with ABS filament would probably work. Just need a 3D scanner, then add in the missing area in Fusion 360 or other software.
If you use electrolysis to remove rust, you don't have to keep buying anything. And you clearly deal with more rust than most of us! Keep up the great work!
Mustie the Chain Chef 😂
Mustie1 What Model/Brand is your lift? Thanks
It is 30 dollars at O'Rileys
Put red kote in it
Mustie1 I use Kreem gas tank liner once all the loose rust is removed.
For some reason you remind me of Steve1989MREInfo so much. I think it's the voice.
Try some pea shaped gravel ,put into tank and shake to get to rust in hard to get areas ,don't forget to count them so none get left behind, then apply tank sealer, a petrol proof resin which sets hard and also seals any pin prick holes.
Gas tank dust.... Dont breath this. XD
Good call blowing the water out of the tank after washing out. When I used evaporust on a tank, it worked well to clean out the rust but then when I let it sit and air dry, it rusted up again...
At the end of the video that vw pickup, WOW! I especially love the paint tray air scoops. Now that's thinking out of the box. A great "getty up slow down the road ride". Brings back lots of memories.
I think Wolfsburg West is offering those gutter heater tubes now
Instead of shaking, why not use a shop vac to clean it out?
I think your bench grinder needs to be your next project.....
Boiled in oil...god I love the internet !
I noticed you use WD-40 often, I was recently watching another favorite channel of mine called Abom79 and he was using WD-40 rust remover. I wonder how that would fit you needs. You have inspired me to work on some of my old junk, I recently finished an old (25 year) chainsaw and successfully managed to get it working, and I wanted to let you know that you are an absolute joy to watch and wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Damn youtube, the non-optional keyboard controls, and comment WIP non-permanence! Can't recall my long comment, too tired, start from where I left off. No, it won't harm steel from prolonged soaking, it only affects rust. (though it does bring carbon to the surface of hardened steel) Thanks for the fun!
Musty you crazy trying to save that tank. Rust has gone to your head Haha.
Red coat gas tank sealer
the speedo bulb might fit with one from a puch :)
mmmmm, deep fried chain.
My old 1973 Honda 754cc motorcycle had a headlight you have to change the whole headlight. Hard to carry a spare bulb on a long trip when it the whole headlight. I have had the headlight burn out riding in the dark late night. And way out in the country with no street light to see around you. So i had to ride it back home in pure darkness.
Mustie1 , Knowing you, I know this Honda Trail 90 will have a good new life again ♥ The Honda Trail 90 is one of my all time favorite motorcycles so I am very much looking forward to seeing the successful completion of this project. I am sure many people will offer to buy it when you are done if you do not want to keep it for yourself :)
Another youtuber...used some paper towels inside of the clean wet gas tank and then used compressed air to "dance the cloths" around therefore wiping and drying the inside of the confines of the gas tank.
thanks to mustie and the subscriber for the tip about the evapo-rust. saved me $350 and a month of waiting for a new motorcycle tank. it's a bit pricey, but worth it.
I think a K90 is a much better idea...
For cost effective rust removal simply put White-OX 1483205 1 lbs Rust Remover Crystals at one scoop (60cc) per gallon of water. It is simply Oxalic acid in crystal form. Cost is only about $14.00 to $16,00 USD for a one pound container of crystals at Ace Hardware or Walmart. Way cheaper than Evaporust at $17.00 USD per gallon. Only eats the iron oxide (rust) and will not remove chrome plating... It is used on fiberglass boats to remove rust stains from gelcoat without harming the fiberglass gelcoat. Will not harm painted surfaces. Can also use it in liquid form to spot remove rust stains from clothing when applied just before putting clothes into washing machine.
Correction use 4 scoops (60cc) per gallon of water.
Thanks for the quick view on the VW.
Others have mentioned it, but I'll put in my two cents: You can leave the Evapo-Rust in that tank far longer. Not going to hurt anything other than the rust. If you can provide a source of warmth to it, it works quicker too. I've thought about setting up a vat with an aquarium heater, but never really needed to. All those saying it's just an expensive diluted acid, it's not. It uses a process called chelation to remove the rust. If you look that up, best I can describe it, it's basically forming ionic bonds with the rust to remove it from the steel. Best part about this stuff is in the end, it typically doesn't harm paint (unless the paint was lousy to being with), you don't need to neutralize it to stop it from eating away the good metal like you would with an acid, or caustic de-rusting agent, and you don't need a hazmat team to dispose of it once it's spent.
It would have been interesting to weigh each of them, cleaned and dried, to see how much steel has gone from the original tank ... also the way I was taught to assess chain wear was to fold the chain in half , hold the free ends and hold the chain horizontally. More than about 4" deflection and you would consider replacing the chain.
How did you like the Evap O Rust? I've seen the guy on Hand Tool Rescue use it and it looks like pretty good stuff.
18:52 that's really dangerous. I had a school teacher that ruined his arm by doing that exact thing.
the color of moon glass!
Eastwood motorcycle gas tank sealer kit, cleans, etches, and seals. $33.00, easy to use and works perfectly.
Get a honda xr560r to ceep an play with
The Evapo - Rust website has a video on painted items - looks like it works well and saves the paint.
I've saved some stuff over the years but the muffler you saved was epic on this . , I learn on small carbs every time you save one 😉
Hi Mustie...have you ever tried POR15 gas tank sealer?
Thanks to David in Canada!
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I knew you’d get it!
Curious if a magnet would help pull the particulate rust out of solution...
In the uk I used Putoline chain wax that was in a round tin that you put your chain into and heat it up! Worked awesome on my gpz900r chain back in the 90s!
Satisfying watching that paint come off the wheel to see that chrome. I have a 69 Beetle. Any recommendations to get a little surface rust off the body? Would like to spot prime and paint all rust spots and then get the whole car painted. Thanks.
I love the smell of deep fried chain and citrus paint stripper in the morning.
That expensive rust remover, is sodium hydroxide (lye) or citric acid or phosphoric acid based. All are dirt cheap to buy as a chemical.
It isn't acid based. I've had it all over my hands, and it basically feels like a detergent. I've had painted parts in it for days on end, to no ill effect. It uses a process called chelation to remove the rust.
Try MC-51 Rust Remover. I hear it works very good and is now available to be shipped in the United States.
Back in the 70s, we conditioned our chains by soaking them in a pan of STP (do they still sell STP?) and then heating it up like you did. The STP would stick to the chain where oil would get flung off.
The old garage shop was better.
Mustie it’s cheaper to shit a package to the states and back then it is to ship something across Canada
Thanks mustie1 great birthday video. Your shop is bad ass and you teach us all a lot thanks for that
Love the citristrip best paint stripper I've tried.
Blimey!. What would I give to have a wharehouse to work in.
TELL JASON rain gutters are for houses not heaters. ha ha. THat is funnier than the paint tray air scoops.
Those Canadians are so darned nice. Good on ya Dave!
I used malt vinegar and over 4 days cleaned a tank amazing and was like £5 too
my father would strap the tank to an old cement mixer and fill it with 5/16" nuts ( M8 ish) then set it spinning at different angles. After cleaning run it again tanks would come out great. Ready for coating.
if the tank doesn't leak, I put sharp rocks in it and water and shake the shit out of it for a while. comes out looking sand blasted
Hand Tool Rescue uses Evaporust specifically. Looks like you need a 55gal drum now :-)
Maybe I should start my own TRvision channel for I talk to myself as I work. What’s bad as I now find myself answering my questions!
I have a trail 90 that is not running. Been in barn for 40 yrs. I would be interested in selling it as a parts bike
Evaporust has 5 gal buckets with the basket in it.
I have had excellent luck with the POR15 tank sealant system. I've done a couple of fairly large tanks (12-18 gallons) and even the one on my 1973 IH 464, which is a really strangely-shaped tank, sealed up where I had visible holes. The first trick is getting the inside of the tank clean. I've read a number of guys who have used muriatic acid, phoshoric acid, vinegar, and any number of other solutions. I've had good luck with a gallon of Simple Green, (citrus version), and then a thorough rinse. The POR15 sealant looks like silver paint, but it dries ceramic hard. EDIT: The Evap-O-Rust stuff did wonders on my rusty radiator/engine, too.
cheaper to use feed molasses/water mixture for rust removal, and definitely won't harm paint.
You can use Evaporust on the chain too. What are we having for lunch? Ummm... Chain in oil.
Looking forward to you working on Justie1
What for lunch dear Oh baked chain lmao!
Love your new shop! Can't wait to see the new metal working in action. Thank you for sharing great videos
I did a 1945 Willys military jeep restoration several years back and used a product called POR 15 to seal and reuse the original tank. I believe this product is designed to seal pin holes like you have in that beat up other tank.