Pink Diamond is Kind of a Bad Person

Pink Diamond abandoned Spinel in their garden six thousand years ago...but why is this what finally gets people talking?
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  • I've been considering since the beginning that rose quartz wasnt exactly the best. Like I still liked her as a character up until Bismuth. Then I was realizing she keeps hurting people... leaving all of this mess behind for her son to deal with. By the end of season five I was already not fond of Pink Diamond. I thought the same as you, as she was careless and irresponsible and kind of terrible for all of this mess she had made and knowingly left it for Steven to fix. She hid things and kept secrets. Then the movie just solidified my feelings for Pink/Rose.

    Kris-SamaKris-SamaSaatler önce
  • "Pink Diamond is Kind of a Bad Person" I love how the Steven Universe Fandom is JUST NOW realizing this.

    Isaac SmithIsaac Smith2 saatler önce
  • Kind of?

    Tord EddsworldTord Eddsworld8 saatler önce
  • I think that, besides being a way to escape responsibilities herself and fulfil a human fantasy, having Steven was Rose's way of redeeming herself. Gifting her powers to a child raised by Greg and the gems is probably the best way to make sure her powers got into the right hands

    Olive AdamsOlive Adams12 saatler önce
  • I remember people starting to say that back when the flashback episode came out.

    CynadydeCynadyde14 saatler önce
  • Pink diamond is selfish all she wanted is a *Colony More than Anything* By spinel meant by Anything like she didn't... Want spinel i think blue diamond shouldn't be sorry for making her cry in the tower and prison her in her

    LuvGreedLuvGreed15 saatler önce
  • Me: **looks at title** Me: Yeah, no shit sherlock.

    Dying InsideDying Inside23 saatler önce
  • I don't think she had steven for the right reasons think about it there are other ways to have children and yet she chose the way that wouldn't involve him around her. I don't think she wanted to have a human I think she wanted to be human. What white diamond said to steven in the last episode might have been pink diamonds actual thought process

    Ruby JewelsRuby JewelsGün önce
  • I wish pink could see the pain she caused and have Steven just deck his mom in the face for it

    Anonymous InvaderAnonymous InvaderGün önce
  • Rose could be a good gem by her being trapped by someone and someone pretend to be her when she left spinel just a thought

    This is just a channelThis is just a channelGün önce
  • I still like pink diamond she never wanted her son to deal with her own problems it's not her fault Steven decided to take on her problems

    ghostchilieghostchilieGün önce
  • This is kinda false

    CrowCrow2 gün önce
  • Pilot garnet: pink diamond...why are u such a buttface?

    Alex shmalexAlex shmalex2 gün önce
    • @Alex shmalex I'm already awake, dear, Spinel has a little bit of fault too.

      Pastel JoePastel JoeGün önce
    • Pastel Joe common wake up the spinel abandonment leaving messes that Steve’s gotta clean up for her *WAKE UP*

      Alex shmalexAlex shmalexGün önce
    • she's not, lol.

      Pastel JoePastel JoeGün önce
  • im sorry for doubting you

    watashiwa spongebobwatashiwa spongebob2 gün önce
  • BUT! In one of the final episodes Garnet says, “you couldn’t stop me 5700-something years ago”, Spinel was left for 6000 years. Rose fought the revolution and left Spinel behind. I’m not defending her abandonment, but their had to be a reason.

    Fat MarshmellowFat Marshmellow2 gün önce
    • 《Sхга 》 exactly what I was thinking. Like I said not justified, just saying maybe she knew Spinel was weak and wouldn’t last.

      Fat MarshmellowFat Marshmellow21 saatler önce
    • She left spinel because spinel was to weak and friendly and she wouldn't have lasted 100 years.

      《Sхга 》《Sхга 》Gün önce
  • While I disagree about Pearl facing the consequences of her actions appropriately, I gotta agree with pretty much everything else. And Rose's character is actually written well in the sense of her being an antagonist. She ones of the most layered villains in the series, and she's enjoyable that way. Although...after all was revealed about Rose, the gems and Steven tried more to forget or ignore Rose, rather than talk about her. Which would have been more healthy. They didn't even take her picture down from the wall as a sign that their perceptions had changed and therefore they needed to act on them. A lot of the toxic things characters do, like Lapis messing with Jasper, or Pearl screwing with Connie, or the whole thing with Rose: They never talk about it directly. And not facing the situation is exactly was Pink did. It's also a bit...cheap? That the character who is dead gets more development. They can't do anything about Pink now, she's dead. But the other diamonds are alive, and while they take responsibility for their actions, they get less development and are the ones who raised Pink to cement the childish, toxic person she is. Both with abuse, and their disregard for even the lives of their own gems. Your vids are fun. I'm interested in seeing more of your content.

    Devon WallDevon Wall2 gün önce
  • The thumbnail looks like Spinel is venting and pink is just like: *_WHeEze_*

    ethoréxethoréx3 gün önce
  • Kinda what do you mean KINDA

    jack manningjack manning3 gün önce
  • Pink tbh isn't even a victim of abuse. She just wasn’t taken seriously.

    kxyotokxyoto3 gün önce
  • look pink is a good person she just did a mistake

    Abhijay BhimavarapuAbhijay Bhimavarapu3 gün önce
    • Like the whole show is steven fixing her problems

      Candy bunCandy bun9 saatler önce
    • Abhijay Bhimavarapu Many a mistake, again & again & again...

      xFATMAN192xxFATMAN192xGün önce
  • 2:54 I wish my sister was this mature. She blames all of her mistakes and shortcomings on past abuse, and other people. She is downright abusive herself sometimes, verbally and physically. I've been at the brunt of it a few times, and yet our younger sister doesn't seem to understand the hatred I have towards her for it. Our younger sister just feels sorry for her.

    IceRiver1020IceRiver10203 gün önce
  • Is that K O, STEVEN AND STAR IN THE BACKROUND??!

    Mark Allen LaraMark Allen Lara3 gün önce
  • Wait, what join button?!

    A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!3 gün önce
  • 5:32 Pearl: I can sing... 😑 Rip Pearl XD

    A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!3 gün önce
  • Who are you You aren't awestruckvox xd

    A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!A Cookeh Who Says MEOW!3 gün önce
  • KIND OF????

    Tim FranklinTim Franklin3 gün önce
  • It would have made sense if PD was evil from the beginning

    Gol D. LuffyGol D. Luffy3 gün önce
    • @Armored Wings dumbass

      Dark SpyroDark Spyro3 gün önce
    • The thing is, you don't need to be "evil" to be a bad person

      Armored WingsArmored Wings3 gün önce
  • Steven is pinks redemption

    GhostrareStardustGhostrareStardust3 gün önce
  • I’ve actually seen people in other comments of other videos that actually get PISSED if anyone says that Pink is bad I sent them a link to this video

    ø Sachiko Stories øø Sachiko Stories ø3 gün önce
  • the only one who could redeem her in this universe, is literally Steven

    Kelsea WernerKelsea Werner4 gün önce
  • When the person narrating the video clearly has a grudge that people only agreed to him now: F 😂To be right now, though.😏

    Allen's MatchmakerAllen's Matchmaker4 gün önce
  • I for me, she's complicated. On one hand there have been many many mistakes made by her and it's been left up to mostly Steven to fix it, but at the same time it does appear that she did care for people and would do what she can to protect them, even if it's perhaps the best course of action. So yeah I think she can be redeemed, provided if she ever does make an appearance in the future(if that is even possible).

    Mardon NaLouMardon NaLou4 gün önce
  • I've thought she was bad for ages too.

    Destiny HarrisDestiny Harris4 gün önce
  • Rose quartz is a good person because she saved an entire planet just because she left and grew apart from a few things and or people and didn’t know how to react or how people react doesn’t make her a bad person she just wanted to be adventurous and pink diamond was still learning like the gems they are still learning about earth and other stuff pink diamond she was learning besides them and then she thought earth was going to be safe for Steven so she had Steven thinking it would be fine for Steven to live out his life with her and just like gems and humans you forget stuff like how pearl even forgot about spinel after all they litterally fought a war because they saw beauty in everything on earth and wanted to protect it they didn’t have time to think about spinel or any thing or anyone else because they litterally were saving their friends after corruption so they could be healed eventually see this all from pinks perspective she was basically a kid learning how thing worked and getting bored with stuff like we’ve all been there and done it to toys so who are we to blame pink she’s just doing what almost any one would do

    pikachuplayzpikachuplayz4 gün önce
  • 1:52 His main point

    Dinzer WestDinzer West4 gün önce
  • after watching the movie and the show a few weeks later,kind of is not the word I would use =___=;;; I would use asshole as the word I love the color pink so I love pink characters,but I can't like pink diamond after all the shit she's done,especially with spinel,so guess who my favorite character is instead,it's so easy to guess

    Dark SpyroDark Spyro4 gün önce
  • *Kind Of-?!?!!?*

    Mochi BalthazarMochi Balthazar4 gün önce
  • kind of ? KIND OF ?

    Sonata YanniSonata Yanni5 gün önce
  • Does this mean Steven needs to give himself mothers day gifts?

    wrgirlie86wrgirlie865 gün önce
  • I've said it from the beginning: the real hero of Steven Universe is Greg. And the real villain is Pink Diamond. I haven't seen the movie but it seems that it only confirms what they'd shown us about Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz. That's why Steven "can totally believe" that his mother did that. I would have agreed with you if I had discovered your channel before the movie was released, and I agree with you now.

    Freaktiful WhispersFreaktiful Whispers5 gün önce
  • Pink diamond actually put the earth in more danger by leaving. Change my mind.

    MeepMorpMasterMeepMorpMaster5 gün önce
  • You know the more I think about it... in regards to Spinel... Pink did the right thing

    shawn Boaheneshawn Boahene5 gün önce
    • Ok like her or not I believe Pink Diamond leaving her there was the right call. If she took her with her do you think Spinel would be able to handle the trauma of a war? Or be put at risk of shattering, experimentation, or corruption?

      shawn Boaheneshawn Boahene8 saatler önce
    • fuck you shitbag,spinel is an amazing character

      Dark SpyroDark Spyro4 gün önce
  • PD isn't a bad person. She's good, but very childish, which make her... kind of a d*ck (sorry I couldn't find a word that have a similar meaning to that 🙄)

    bach ho ngocbach ho ngoc5 gün önce
  • Agreed, that's absolutely in keeping with Pink's persona. Yellow has the garb of a soldier and is quick, decisive, brash, violent, all those attributes. Blue is in very round garb of somber blue - she is all emotion, mostly sad, wills others to feel her pain, wallows in suffering, etc. White is brittle perfection with her spiky headpiece, unilateral view (white is the non-inclusion of other colors, after all), absent of feeling, shows psychopathy and yet complete propriety and moral superiority at the same time *shudder*. While pink is literally in clown's clothes. She's the poppet, the guignol. The Fool. She is the embodiment of childish fancy with all the passions, daring yet thoughtlessness of a child. With all the breathtaking goodness and horrifying badness that can bring. Totes makes sense.

    lovelyreenlovelyreen5 gün önce
  • N o o o o w a y y y

    chopstix animationchopstix animation5 gün önce
  • All diamonds were. White diamond controlled her pearl and took Stevens gem away, Yellow diamond was basically napoleon and blue diamond killed more people then yellow and abused her power and then all of them at once corrupted the gems at earth.

    SirofSir SirsSirofSir Sirs6 gün önce
  • I think Pink Diamonds flaws are a huge part of the story, because at here core she was redeemable, and part of her redemption is Steven himself! Think about the other Diamonds, I'm sure for all the awful things Link has done the others have done much worse, and yet they are being redeemed... Pink had spent thousands of years of her life being told she was, and being treated like she was, a higher life form, she wasn't going to make a flip to being a perfectly good a deal compassionate person overnight, that's the essence of character development. Past abuse and the way we are raised can't be a total EXCUSE for the way we act, but they definitely can be reasons for why we are the way we are, and we have to learn to overcome the flaws in our character that was essentially put there by someone elss

    garrett armstronggarrett armstrong6 gün önce
  • think : how old is earth if 6000 yrz ago PinkDiamond leaved Spinel to go to earth withcou her? MAYBE EARTH IS OLDER THEN 6000?!?!?!@!?!?!?!?!11!!?!?1/1/1/1/1??? cool vid Pink Diamond is bad

    XxOlciaQ MspxXXxOlciaQ MspxX6 gün önce
  • kind of?!

    ZenagonZenagon6 gün önce
  • Well, you can't really reshape a diamond unless you use another diamond do so.

    Grace EboGrace Ebo6 gün önce
  • Tfw when everyone hates you more than your other literally Space Hitler family members who invaded and destroyed numerous inhabited planets, shattered millions of gems and forced them all together in one big nightmare abomination who’s existence is anguish and torment, and were basically overall dictators that eliminated everything which didn’t fall within their perfect caste system. Because you forgot about a court jester while battling to save the earth from extinction. Yeah Pink did a lot of things she didn’t consider the consequences of later, but I’d say she’s the least problematic diamond by far. The others somehow got written off and forgiven because they’re “Haha goofy giant grandmas XD”

    nitroglyphnitroglyph6 gün önce
  • i don't think rose is a bad person. she just has flaws. the idea that mistakes suddenly make u bad, is stupid. she gave up a lot to protect what she thought needed protection. yeah their were better ways but one can only say that in hindsight. she thought that was the only way. dont forget. most of the crystal gems followed rose not her idea of protecting life. no rose no protecting life . and she was on the the 1st ones to gives gems a voice. ] she made mistakes. mistakes that should be called out but she did a lot of good and that too should be talked about. she is not perfect nor a bad person. just a person who fumbled around while walking the path that she thought was the right one to go on

    jacob filiusjacob filius6 gün önce
  • Everyone : Pink diamond was bad and Spinel WAS IN THE RIGHT Spinel : I came gere to take my anger out on a bunch of strangers...

    dragon drawerdragon drawer6 gün önce
  • Hey! I got my profile pic from here (i changed it so yah)

    Pink DiamondPink Diamond7 gün önce
  • Did Greg know about this

    and.elvin henriquez#2and.elvin henriquez#27 gün önce
    • probably not ^^;;

      Dark SpyroDark Spyro4 gün önce
  • My personal two cents. Yes. Alot of what Pink did and HOW she acted is due to how she was raised by the diamonds. Diamonds are taight that THEY are the leaders. All gems and other life forms are lower than thwy are. And while Pink did infact realize that killing the planets was wrong that may very well be all she realized. Gems weren't made to fuse with other gems, or to rebel, or to find their own path in life. All of those were things introduced by the rebels. The only reason the diamonds are getting closer to behaving and thinking better than they used to is because they had GUIDANCE. Steven helped show them a better right and wrong. He's helped them work to become better people for 2 years. And one may argue that pink/rose had thousands of years AWAY from.her abusers to become better. But the big thing she didnt have was guidance. She didnt have anyone tell her that those things weren't ok. The gems couldnt tell her thag because everything they were doing is new to them. They grew and developed as people but couldnt possibly understand a stronger sense of roght and wrong sonce it had never been questioned before and theyd never been told anything except for "Diamonds know best so we never question them" if you listen to Rose's song love like you she REALIZES SHE WAS TERRIBLE but only because she finally had aomeone to show her how her way thinking was resulting in terrible behavior and causing problems. "I always thought i might be bad now im aurw that its true, 'cus I think you're so good and im nothing like you. " GREG WAS HER GUIDANCE but she realized that even if she tried to be a better person. Shell always have a bit of her old self. And she may very well think That's holding her back. But she knew that steven, someone surrounded by people better than she ever could be. And by a strong loving father to guide him and make him kind and considerate and the amazing steven we know and love. I know a lot of friends who have dealt with abuse. And they go on to behave all kinds if different ways. But this show depicts 2 very different ways people can behave after a childhood of abuse. Pink ran off and made her own life, but didnt necessarily become better. She continued living as she had, not knowing her behavior was qrong because she had never seen anything else or been told that it was wrong. She acted how she was taught to act by homeworld, and as for the rebels, no one recognized how bad it wad because they lived the exact same way. They were stuck, and had trouble growing as people because they didnt know how to grow. Stevem taught them. Thats why pearl lives for herself now instead of rose. How Amethyst takes pride and lives with the support if her friends and family boosting her up. He taight garnet that its ok to not know everything, and sometimes you just have to focus in what you can change rather than what you cant. He taught them that fighting doesnt always fiz the problem. Pink didnt have a steven until she realized how much she teuly loved Greg. How he was different from other humans because he taught her and was willing to overloom the mistakes of her past so he could help her future. Only at the end of her life did she learn that she was wrong, and selfish , and not a good person. The diamonds acted JUST like this. They all dealt with Whites abuse. And realized. They behaved wrongly. Steven showed them that. They had guidance. Yes. Some people can realize the fault in their behavior on their own. But some cant. The diamonds needed guidance to make steps towards being better. And they're still struggling to learn. But they have someone to help them. So theyre trying to fix their mistakes. So yes. Pink diamond was a bad person. And she did a lot of what she did not only because of the abuse. But because of how she was taught to think. This is not to void her of fault or to excuse the things she did. But i feel like its unfair to call her evil and cruel and heartless. EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN in steven universe has had some layer of depth of a deeper reasoning for what they did. And even if you consider pink to be the real villain. The same goes for her. Evil is not inherent, just like all terrible thought and behavior patterns. Like racism isnt inherent, or bias or prejudice. These are behavior traits that are TAUGHT. If a killer raises a child. That child may not think killing is wrong. Pink was raised where she was an important person who had a right to everything she wanted and her deaires took priority. Once something didn't serve a purpose she was expected to get rid of it. And gems were treated like objects. They were used for walls, decorative statues. Even aquamarine said topaz was of no use to her. And was prepared to get rid of her.we know this is wrong but they dont. Not all of them anyways. Even the offcolors thought they were in the wrong for being themselves. Its not as if she did all of this because she wanted to hurt those around her. She did everything how she did because she was taught to think that way or behave that way. We become the people qe are through nature AND nurture. But one can have more sway on someone depending on their upbringing. Abd abusive upbringing like pink endured is bound to drill homeworlds odeals into her head that much more. Especially since she tried to go against the grain and was punished constantly for teying to save things and be better. And a lot of complaints I see is that "if ahe tried to explain her feelings to the diamonds none of this would happen" but everyone seems to forget. SHE DID TRY. In the episode where ruby and sapphire aplit and pearl explains everything she shows that pink diamond DID try. But was scolded for it. And was ignored. Just like how white ignored blue and yellow. She used all her authority but it meant nothing. She felt trapped and took an out. She tried to make a change. Started a spark that lead to a rebellion. Gems thinking for themselves. Being themselves. She did do good things. She tried to leave as much good as she had. But she didnt really know good and bad. She is still responsible for her failures and actions. But its so so SO wrong to just slap a label on her calling her pure evil like she WANTED to do all that damage. Its the same as calling someone a heroe despite any terrible things in their past that may have lead up to that. Its fine to classify her as an antagonist because yes. She caused problems for the main character and everyone around them. But its not ok to ignore the meanings and cause behind it. We all knew pink/rose wasnt A good person. But its not ok to belittle her and act like her suffering and upbringing played no part. It just upsets me when people ignore the history of someone. And i repeat THAT DIESNT EXCUSE HER ACTIONS but that doesn't mean its ok to label someone based on their mistakes. No. Rose isnt a good person. She didnt know how to be. But that doesnt mean shes a cruel villainess. It means she was hurt early on and never fully recovered. People who come from abuse can rise higher thab their oast and tey to be better. And sometimes they can get stuck in their past and never learn from it. But that doesnt mean its from a lack of wanting to be better. They may just not know how. Not looking to argue and you can reply with youre thoughts if you want. But that doesn't really mean ill respond (im sure ill be flooded with people telling me why I'm wrong lol)

    Cara HollingsworthCara Hollingsworth7 gün önce
  • Me before watching the movie: THIS JERK GONNA MESS UP STEVEN? Spinel go to hell :v Me after watching the movie: OMG :O SO FLIPPING CUTE!!!!! I take back EVERYTHING *tries to hug TV*

    BonChan WildCraftBonChan WildCraft7 gün önce
  • I mean, but also the other Diamonds were literally space fascist colonizers. Soooooo. I think there are worse people out there

    Egia MortoEgia Morto7 gün önce
  • You’re being rather harsh on Pink Diamond. Yes her ditching Spinel was a dick move (Even though I don’t like Spinel either). But what you’re overlooking is that she didn’t view Spinel as a friend, she viewed her as a toy. And that’s because the Diamonds raised her to think that. They see other gems as tools and servants. Plus they’ve done far worse to Gems than what Pink has done. So to her Spinel was just an old toy she had to get rid of. Especially since the Diamonds may have thought she wasn’t ready for a colony if she had a toy. Most of Pink’s horrible actions were due to lack of foresight or immaturity. But when she became Rose Quartz she started to mature to a degree and see other beings as equals and should be cared for. Should she have gone back for Spinel? Probably, but it would’ve been unwise because both Homeworld and the Crystal Gems would’ve found out about her. Also Steven has already learned in previous episodes that despite his mother being a liar and causing problems, she did love him and the Crystal Gems and didn’t want them to suffer for her crimes. I just hate how the show and the fans constantly demonizes Pink Diamond after establishing she wasn’t a bad person, just made poor choices like everyone else.

    KingNazaruKingNazaru7 gün önce
  • damn..this vid actually got me thinkin...Pink is really bad 😕

    Nia • The • UnicornNia • The • Unicorn7 gün önce
  • Kinda a bad person......KINDA?!?!?!?!

    Finley ProductionsFinley Productions7 gün önce
  • Honestly, there shouldn't have been really any doubt after Bismuth

    NerdyNinaNerdyNina7 gün önce
  • Title:pink diamond is kinda the of a bad person Most SU fans:we been knew

    Sofia UbieraSofia Ubiera8 gün önce
  • Garnet is steven's true mother

    Chyna DanielsChyna Daniels8 gün önce
  • Reedeem pink diamomd? Probably not cuz shes like... dead.

    FoxinaFoxina8 gün önce
  • She's the kind of mom who went to buy milk at the store

    KatrianzKatrianz8 gün önce
  • Shes a horrible person, but better than the rest of the diamonds

    Jason NorthJason North8 gün önce
  • You can’t redeem her. She’s gone.

    [REDACTED] [REDACTED][REDACTED] [REDACTED]8 gün önce
  • from a victim myself I agree 100% with you, even if you are a victim and many behaviors can come from an abusive past that doesn’t excuse you from accountability I don’t think Rose is bad, but she made a lot of mistakes and even if they weren’t on purpose they still hurt many people

    Ilian MongeIlian Monge8 gün önce
  • Not cool

    Haydee EscotoHaydee Escoto8 gün önce
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