Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story

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Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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  • Red has a super scummy business model. I honestly think buying their overpriced camera was a mistake on Linus' part. A 4k camera wouldve been just as practical and quite a bit cheaper

    XonereXXonereX14 saatler önce
  • Anything to do with cinema production is ridiculously over priced, from the body to the lenses to the accessories. It's a racket!

    Singled Out PicturesSingled Out PicturesGün önce
  • So, y'all are fine with spending as much on a camcorder as a fully outfitted Mercedes E Class, but then complain that the cards they sell are too expensive? lol. But I agree, they should put the best in there, meaning 2 of the best SSDs they can find in a Raid 1 Configuration. (That would actually also justify putting it all in a cool proprietary cartridge.

    Johannes DolchJohannes Dolch3 gün önce
  • Lmao imagine using fat32

    RamenGodRamenGod3 gün önce
  • So when is the red camera water cooler done

    joshua41175joshua411755 gün önce
  • Notice: if your going to make a comment saying ‘oh proceeds to show USA markings’ note that he got his before the entire scandal happened

    BlockArchitechBlockArchitech5 gün önce
  • them R&D monies are 100% used to calc how to get the most profit out of nothing fooling people in the unknown.

    Me 2Me 26 gün önce
  • You didn't know they were just SSds in an enclosure? Thats what the industry is right now lol we do the same thing in our products.

    LiamLiam6 gün önce
  • Linus: RED splits the video footage into 4GB files me: wait are they STILL using fat32 Linus: it's because they're using fat32 skdjflaksjdflkasjdf

    sprrocketsprrocket7 gün önce
    • sprrocket hmm fat32 isn’t bad its still a staple around the gaming market like Motherboard os updates

      Gabriel IGabriel I5 gün önce
  • Great job documenting the bots!

    roblax87roblax877 gün önce
  • 1:30 what kind of psychopath uses a screwdriver like THAT WTF

    nitrxgennitrxgen8 gün önce
  • could have said, 'Made on Earth'

    Titan GamingTitan Gaming10 gün önce
  • im surprised that linus actually tried to protect the company that pretty much scam him

    Ionixt E. BixIonixt E. Bix10 gün önce
  • The size inconsistency could also be due to unit confusion: 476.8 GiB ≈ 512 GB, 480 GiB ≈ 515.4 GB, 931.3 GiB ≈ 1 TB, 960 GiB ≈ 1.031 TB

    Solomon UckoSolomon Ucko10 gün önce
  • "Red claims this is to protect the user from accidental deletions" *Off camers scoffing laugh*

    DragonNexusDragonNexus11 gün önce
  • Welp, never getting a red.

    Darian KimberlyDarian Kimberly11 gün önce
  • Hehehehehe!

    mirk birmirk bir13 gün önce
  • I bet it costs less than $5 to manufacture this camera and it's parts and they jack up the price to a ridiculous about. That company is committing a scam.

    Sonny12681Sonny1268114 gün önce
  • Msata is still a thing?

    MISC BITSMISC BITS15 gün önce
  • I hope this was filmed on a RED Cinema camera...

    carphotography101carphotography10116 gün önce
  • basically RED Ceo wants to profit as much as possible at the expense of customers tricking them that they are getting a far better product.

    Peter ChiungPeter Chiung16 gün önce
  • Oh, a shitty greedy company overcharging without justification. Red Dead Non-Redemption

    Informed ChoiceInformed Choice16 gün önce
  • WTF? Spare area? You mean over provisioning? Come on linus you know better then that. Use proper terms please. Its never good to teach people improper terminology.

    John GrimesJohn Grimes18 gün önce
  • Maybe dont rip people off and people wont rip off your ideas. Fuck Red. Camera price is understandable but all the peripherals? Insane...

    John GrimesJohn Grimes18 gün önce
  • 0:59 First time I've ever heard a Canadian say "ya'll"

    Dakota MartinDakota Martin19 gün önce
  • I can't believe it. Linus! Linus! is protecting red. this is weird because he wasn't to happy when he bought it

    Gordon The TrainGordon The Train20 gün önce
  • lmao red also sells a basic SSD reader for $250 www.red.com/red-station-mini-mag-usb-3 A 9 foot LITERAL CAT 5 to proprietary fake cat 5 port for $120 www.red.com/RED-GIG-E-Right-to-CAT5E-Ethernet-Cable-9 a "tactical" handle for $150 www.red.com/dsmc2-universal-handle

    Sun PakSun Pak24 gün önce
  • Nobody: I'm about to end this guy's entire career. Not even a single soul: Everybody Me: Wait that's illegal. TRvision's Recommendations: It's free real estate. Am I a joke to you: Also Me:

    Kerim KerimKerim Kerim25 gün önce
  • Linus will go down in history as a legend

    SOL WOLFSOL WOLF25 gün önce
  • I am late to the partay. Just.....Wow.

    The Adventure BikerThe Adventure Biker25 gün önce
  • I think jinn1mag should be called out for their false statements. But I'm glad they are out there and vent viral. Red is still charging obscene amount of money for an adapter. And on top of that they have clearly taken steps to stop user from using third party drives. Even though they are using standard hardware that could be very easily changed if not for manufactured obstructions. Also, it's true that it's ultimately on customer to decide. But it's kind of messed up if customer had to do in depth research on every product they buy to be assured they get real value. I think Jinn1Mag did service to people by bringing awareness to this. Ultimately as far as Red mini mag is concerned, everything about it is designed to take as much money from people as possible. I mean recovery service is just another way justify the price and low quality. You could just as well take it to any other recovery service as the hardware is standard. I wouldn't be surprised at all actually if they used third party service for recovery anyway. Reading worker reviews about red kind of gives me image that Red's management is just bunch of greedy assholes.

    kasakasa26 gün önce
  • F RED. Other companies are catching up to their proprietary BS and offering equivalent quality at 20% of the price. They blew it. Hope they collapse.

    TheRealCritiqueTheRealCritique26 gün önce
  • why tf is linus defending a money-eating company lol

    Ionixt E. BixIonixt E. Bix26 gün önce
  • Red camera is a scam company who makes lots of claims about inventing things but actually is just a company who repurposes tech > puts it in a different enclosure and then adds lockout chips. Don't support this company

    Masterpj555Masterpj55527 gün önce
  • 15 mins of my life I will never get back

    Ariana HadleyAriana Hadley27 gün önce
  • To be fair, you could probably find a few hundred computer engineers that could design their own SSDs like Red's and it be either free or really fucking cheap.

    TheImmoralCookieTheImmoralCookie27 gün önce
  • samsung: sells good SSD's for a low price RED: wait, thats illigal!!

    AyoubAyoub28 gün önce
  • What a shill

    Gonçalo AlegriaGonçalo AlegriaAylar önce
  • hope they had a better explanation to save their faces

    Rakesh BattulaRakesh BattulaAylar önce
  • I was on RED's side until I saw the price for that SSD. What a joke kek

    MinecraftMikeMinecraftMikeAylar önce
  • Excellent video!

    Robert WrightRobert WrightAylar önce
  • Nice job Linus .

    William CreeganWilliam CreeganAylar önce
  • My question here becomes this, if u don't like what a company is doing, and evidently have complaints about their product, why do u still use it. Annnddd, if the answer is "it's the best product for us" or something, then stop whining

    Kyle RobertsonKyle RobertsonAylar önce
    • he isnt whining about them, its because this blew up a few months ago and people were asking him to adress it

      Shanee BaheraShanee Bahera15 gün önce
  • DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Linus went off

    T BT BAylar önce
  • Red has engineered a raid 1 solution. You're using it wrong. You're supposed to buy 2 complete rigs and 2 people to operate the two rigs.

    ZoeBios121ZoeBios121Aylar önce
  • 12:03 hahahahaha 😂

    AJComputerServicesUKAJComputerServicesUKAylar önce
  • Now that someone else's video has gone viral its time to copy it.

    vegoutwithveggevegoutwithveggeAylar önce
  • Here's a novel solution: STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO RED. Why do TRvisionrs who get big enough think they all have to buy overpriced Red bullshit? Fuck them.

    The Glow CloudThe Glow CloudAylar önce
    • I'd suggest Sony F35/F65, Panavision Genesis, Arri D-21 or the newer Alexa, or a Thompson Viper.

      The Glow CloudThe Glow CloudAylar önce
    • What other camera would you recommend?

      LoreaverLoreaverAylar önce
  • Wait y’all did some editing after the fact. I didn’t know you can add more images and voice over after the fact. TRvision editing getting more advanced

    MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONSMYCRAZYPRODUCTIONSAylar önce
  • The only mags I have experience with are pornographic

    RectalDiscourseRectalDiscourseAylar önce
  • Hey Linus, TRvision really doesn't want me to subscribe so just for the record I'm subscribed

    MrManiac3MrManiac3Aylar önce
  • Again you should have purchased a Hasselblad. For the price of one of those failure prone cards you could have purchased a better camera. Red ripped you off. Suckers born every minute.

    hclchgmhclchgmAylar önce
    • @MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Hey, just a thought, but when a company repackages OTS components and then marks it up 1000% it kind of falls into the realm of deception on the part of the Red team. At least with a Hassellblaad you get what you pay for without any of those repackaged cards using FAT32 being sold to you for 10 times the real retail cost per card. Just my 2c. Thanks to LTT for ripping one apart and giving a fair and honest review as it will save many others from getting duped.

      hclchgmhclchgm28 gün önce
    • What are you talking about? Hasselblad’s are brilliant Photo cameras, but are capped at 4K video (most still doing only 1080P). Also the most expensive red card is still about half the price of hasselblad camera. Not including the special medium format lenses you need for them. I don’t believe everyone needs a RED and at first I was even critical given how little Linus seemed to know in his why are red camera so expensive video a while back. However, Brandon is their DP for Linus Media Group, and in his video he made it clear they need a RAW camera with the highest pixel resolution possible for reframing. Their only option is RED. Watching this channel Brandon has proved he isn’t some fly by night DP who just wanted the most expensive thing because Linus could afford it. Their was thought put into what’s necessary for the growth of Linus Media Group.

      MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONSMYCRAZYPRODUCTIONSAylar önce
  • Red is a rip-off all together

    TheGamersTag 1TheGamersTag 1Aylar önce
  • ting....go with ting, or we'll send the P'ting to deal with you....gobble gobble gobble....

    psycronizerpsycronizerAylar önce
  • as soon as Linus says..speaking of, or brought to you by..I immediately fast forward a couple of minutes, it's a reflex response nowadays....total muscle memory..I don't even have to think about it....

    psycronizerpsycronizerAylar önce
  • Imagine using the price of an Intel Optane to buy a normal ssd

    Jxshua YuznJxshua YuznAylar önce
  • Did you blow it to clean it, Linus? I think its too dirty...

    Sleepy PierrotSleepy PierrotAylar önce
  • Actually, when designing industrial or professional gear that isn't expected or planned to sell in large quantities (typically less then 50.000 but numbers vary depending on the manufacturer) engineers choose to use pre-made modules instead of going into the trouble of custom designing their own; try taking apart some badass expensive network gear, i'm talking 100.000+ USD per unit network gear; for example a Cisco ASR 9910, not really sure how expensive it is, but it's a perfect example Each and every single expansion card you can buy has a crap ton of off the shelf modules, i saw the PCB for the RP card, with it's just it's brains so to speak; it had off the shelf DC-DC converters everywhere, even the VRMs for the CPU were like that, off the shelf NON REDUNDANT WD Blue SSD, 512GB i remember, expandable RAM since it wasn't soldered, instead of ASIC's for communicating with the rest of the system it had FPGA chips (yes, FPGA are used when custom silicon isn't an option) Same goes for another Infinera rack i've seen, even for blade servers it's still true. Now, remember that 512GB non redundant SSD in the ASR 9910? Instead of making the board itself redundant, they made you buy 2 and yes, it makes sense to have 2 for redundancy anyway, but why not making the boards themselves redundant? RED cameras... are also pro gear that don't sell in large quantities, they might as well just manufacture them on demand in small batches, of course they will try to shove their fist up your ass to keep getting money from you since they don't sell many, it's exactly what apple does with the iphone and it's ecosystem, but there's no SATA SSD inside it And the marketing lies? Well you gotta give the reasons to customers to buy your product don't you? Maybe some customers look for reliability even on the storage format since it's expensive and proprietary, when you sell in small quantities you gotta make sure you take all the chances to sell it to any potential customer. Fair? Of course not but it's just how capitalism works.

    Alexandru MarzencoAlexandru MarzencoAylar önce
  • Damn. Blew them both apart here Linus. Can't believe this is even a thing, Red why?

    AEIOUAEIOUAylar önce
  • Let's buy 1000 of dollars for mini pcie STORAGE than usually costs 50-100 for just one 256gb. The fuck

    therealandyleetherealandyleeAylar önce
  • Lol “thanks to red for sponsoring this video” 😂😂😂

    STSSTSAylar önce
  • Awesome info guys Can u guys create a custom made option

    Shrilesh KorgaonkarShrilesh KorgaonkarAylar önce
  • That's why we need competition in the market.

    Overly Critical GamerOverly Critical GamerAylar önce
  • No step 1 Step 2 Step 4 Step 4 or 5

    zengancezenganceAylar önce
  • 10 times markup isn't all that upsetting? I should rebrand laptops with my own brand and charge 10 times as much.

    david gutierrezdavid gutierrezAylar önce
  • So... Is red the only manufacturer of high quality film equipment?!?

    Shawn LunsfordShawn LunsfordAylar önce
  • I feel like I just watched my dad yell at me

    ShoopmanShoopmanAylar önce
  • It's like the ink cartridge of video cameras.

    Tiago MirandaTiago MirandaAylar önce
    • Right

      200 subscribers with no video200 subscribers with no videoAylar önce
  • cant trust anyone anymore

    whiskerswhiskersAylar önce
  • Does it matter if it's just a consumer card? On all proprietary devices use the same tech at it's core. The question is how far in the factory line do you start changing things.

    Anon MasonAnon MasonAylar önce
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