Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story

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Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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  • Fuck RED and their proprietary bullshit! Also fuck Apple and any other company that forces you to use proprietary bullshit!

    Der ShrimpiDer Shrimpi18 saatler önce
  • Red first 8 mins okay not to bad after oh.shit oh shit

    Chris P BaconChris P Bacon2 gün önce
  • JinniTech made a new video today, the RED disaster saga continues

    CorneeCornee8 gün önce
  • Claremont, CA! A tiny town east of Los Angeles where I live

    Vicman ThomeVicman Thome13 gün önce
  • 15 minutes of Linus playing with a red flashy toy .........

    Rohan S TRohan S T17 gün önce
  • Bots where used to dislike

    Riaan WhiteRiaan White18 gün önce
  • You want Pro media then buy something that uses SxS or P2 cards

    soundman447soundman44723 gün önce
  • GG CC

    Acethem GamingAcethem Gaming24 gün önce
  • sO rED IS THE aPP$E OF cAMERAS?

    John MackJohn Mack25 gün önce
  • Way to punch down Linus

    Shao ZhangShao Zhang25 gün önce
  • Most of the cars that you can buy are also not entirely manufactured in that country as the companys claim. Most of the parts get produced in Asia and only the final assembly is "made in USA" or "made in Germany".

    maxhousemanmaxhouseman26 gün önce
  • Just some stuff straight outta Star Trek series

    Zotac 1060 6GBZotac 1060 6GBAylar önce
  • I still dont understand ting tbh, in this day and age mobile data is prob at least in my opinion the most important part of a phone plan, i got a pre-pay(but they recently made it automatic via their app so i guess it now bill pay?) plan with 3 and I get unlimited data(4g LTE), free call to people on the same network, something like 5000 text per month and 25 euros to spend in google play....for 25 euros per month, Ting's 30 GB is 300$...am I missing something here?

    AzuresFlamesAzuresFlamesAylar önce
  • sowed*

    galarianrusegalarianruseAylar önce
  • that RGB corsair shit LOOKS CLEAN ngl

    Apple In The FridgeApple In The FridgeAylar önce
  • Linus karate chop on the adapter

    Average SteveAverage SteveAylar önce
  • 11:36 at the end of his line, that background laugh got me so hard😂😂

    Shreyas PraneshShreyas PraneshAylar önce
  • 1:43 did anyone else notice that he skipped step 3?

    UnrealOGUnrealOGAylar önce
  • Made in and EU Preferential origin are different laws. Made in UK could be a thing.

    Matteo MantovaniMatteo MantovaniAylar önce
  • 5N!7

    أبي منديلأبي منديلAylar önce
  • are you a politician? you sure try to be.

    Mario FloresMario FloresAylar önce
  • Wow. Don't ya just hate sin?

    I die daily.I die daily.Aylar önce
  • Did they do a follow up to this video?

    Crusader-RoyCrusader-RoyAylar önce
  • Randomly Expensive Devices

    WyscoWyscoAylar önce
  • Basicaly what I get from this is Minimag wants to spit trash at red while promoting his product Also red sells semi common ssd's for like 1,500 dolars while saying some fake stuff There both to fault

    Connor BetancourtConnor BetancourtAylar önce
  • I read „storage lol“ lol

    Tom RichterTom RichterAylar önce
  • I use cannon cameras and record weekly, and cannon also creates a folder for each recording. And also splits a continues recording into multiple clips. Not anything fancy imo

    Chief McGillChief McGillAylar önce
  • Who checked if that was real Linus

    Alejandro ArvizuAlejandro ArvizuAylar önce
  • I feel like reds strategy is just like if a car maker said "we'll make cars for you" and when it breaks they'll fix it instead of just making it not fail they make themselves look better by "fixing it for free"

    JlawgamingJlawgamingAylar önce
  • RED employee: Boss, this costs us $100 to manufacture. If we count the R&D that went into making this stupid interface, we break even at selling them at $130. What price do we sell them at? Boss: Hmm... Let me think..... *H O W A B O U T $ 1 5 0 0*

    Kushagra TiwariKushagra TiwariAylar önce
    • @J.MAGNI makes it even worse then.

      Kushagra TiwariKushagra TiwariAylar önce
    • Not in a million years does it cost them $100 dollars to manufacture, it's probably more like $30 per unit.

      J.MAGNIJ.MAGNIAylar önce
  • i would comment on the forums but forgot my password and cant wait 15 minutes. The part about damning them for using sata rather than PCIe isnt really a thing and i'll explain why. First in terms of board design, it is much cheaper for sata 3 than PCIe because of the amount of wiring and real estate space the chips require. Although both PCIe and sata have their compact external formats when i t comes to lowering costs for a high bandwidth interface, sata wins out and i'll explain. So at a low price you're stuck with PCIe 2 and not 3 when prototyping your own stuff (many cheaper external PCIe adapters for eGPUs are not PCIe 3). A PCIe 2.1 x1 would require much more expensive chips and design on both the camera and adapter, and less available real estate, more complicated wiring as you increase the number of lanes but at x1 you get 2.5Gb/s (bidirectional). Sata chips are dirt cheap even for sata 3 and design is much simpler requiring far fewer wires and the signal is electrically compatible in different forms, so this makes it cheaper and easier to design an adapter to fit it in different devices. Sata 3 is 6Gb/s. PCIe has higher overheads too so you end up with 2Gb/s practical. If we had 2 lanes, it will still be slower at 4Gb/s vs 6Gb/s. Pcie x4 would be faster at 8Gb/s. but require much wider connectors Remember that the red has been around for years so PCIe 3 as new by then, and people do not want to spend R&D to expand their products when they are selling something that works. In this case, i agree with RED in sticking to their sata 3 if its not the bottleneck even though you do nots get the full potential speed of the SSD as the adapter is specific for the device and using sata 3 as the interface choice is a lot cheaper and simpler. The fact that it doesnt use PCIe shouldnt be a let down, you should consider the factors of the design. Since SATA 3 was around when PCIe 2 came out, it makes much more sense to use that instead as when RED was designed PCIe 3 was new and more expensive,, as even AMD did not include them in their CPU chipsets till ryzen came out. The price difference in material may have been small but with any new tech it requires skilled developers who do not have any existing examples to use and have to deal with problems themselves. This is why if you use a PCIe based SSD on a PCIe 2.0 slot, you may end up slower than sata 3 if you cant get at least 4 lanes, even worse if 4 lanes is being shared by 2 SSDs on older boards, but newer PCIe gen 3 easily beats this at less lanes and easily beats sata 3.

    System Error MessageSystem Error MessageAylar önce
  • What happened to step 3?

    Jeffrey LaGrouJeffrey LaGrouAylar önce
  • I thought there was a pack of newports in his hand in the thumbnail

    NezzeroNezzeroAylar önce
  • lol so use a different product

    olosnah1olosnah1Aylar önce
  • Appreciate the more objective, neutral take on the whole situation. Hard to come by nowadays.

    Sub RipperSub RipperAylar önce
  • red is like apple

    Musashi KojiroMusashi KojiroAylar önce
  • Following Apple..😂

    sandysandyAylar önce
  • 4:30 the screenshot was from july 18 but the video was uploaded july 17th

    LavaCreeperBOSSBLavaCreeperBOSSBAylar önce
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  • is there a part 2 to this? are is Red still doing this?

    You_want_some_gamerYou_want_some_gamerAylar önce
  • adapter for M.2?

    AdamBG02AdamBG02Aylar önce
  • 1:37 step 2 1:43 step 4 Wait what 1:57 step 4 I clearly don't know how to count

    Jimbo McSpankyJimbo McSpankyAylar önce
  • People who uses these cameras beeen fucked over all these years lol

    Luciano DCLuciano DCAylar önce
  • Thumbnail: Linus is about to Grab a Cigarette

    MPG187MPG187Aylar önce
  • RED claiming the way the mag is written to is their own technology is absolutely hilarious

    Joao CoronaJoao CoronaAylar önce
  • RED, the Apple in the photography section

    epicbuilder2007epicbuilder2007Aylar önce
  • i always thought it was obvious that Red is a scam, their shit is way too expensive, and i see a lot of posers making crappy shit on Red, and people doing better with average DSLRs

    Synth LordSynth LordAylar önce
  • It makes me wonder what's the point of spending thousands of dollars on a camera to have overly priced storage and shitty software for saving your footage? It's like the Apple Version of a camera.

    AvengerMKIIAvengerMKIIAylar önce
  • I don't get your attitude towards jinnitech, at all. Red is trying to sell a m2 drive for 2 and a half grand.

    Dr. Benjamin BirdDr. Benjamin BirdAylar önce
  • 9:50 Look at computer monitor

    Ryan StoneRyan StoneAylar önce
  • Im perfect ask my granma

    Mike sMike sAylar önce
  • They lie about their product. "It's not that I don't know the price beforehand." Fuck you DingusTechTips.

    Bruce WayneBruce WayneAylar önce
  • Look at the time 12:02 The adapter came off

    AshesAshesAylar önce
  • You Know, charging so much for this stuff makes me think: Real cinema grade 35mm Film could actually be way cheaper to use ;D

    LasstUnsSpielenLasstUnsSpielenAylar önce
  • i have question if LTT using RED camera to shoot 8k videos why dont they upload it in 8k rather than downscale to 4k or even shooting in 4k from the beginning sorry if im missing something ,im not familiar with video editing.

    mubark al yamimubark al yamiAylar önce
  • how bout a camera that has a 10gig network so you can just put it on a server in the first place using a long cable

    PoltixeTheDergPoltixeTheDergAylar önce
  • They act like they are doing data recovery out of the goodness of their heart and not for customer retention, their brand, and a stopgap since they don't have redundancy. They overcharge 10x for the storage and have the balls to justify it "since they help do data recovery for free", except we wouldn't NEED data recovery if they offered redundancy in the first place. So they are justifying overcharging for a product since they "help fix" a problem that they created.

    youtube12345youtube12345Aylar önce
  • WOW red makes over priced products?!? What a revelation!!!!!

    iiElysium xiiElysium x2 aylar önce
  • Red and Apple frustrate me for very similar reasons, their core products and offerings are actually pretty good and reasonable but they absolutely pull some “bullspit” on all the side business.

    Aaron HaagAaron Haag2 aylar önce
  • Why not just use 4x 1TB SSDs in RAID 10. Makes the price more reasonable. That's gotta beat active data recovery. They can even advertise that it's twice the size and twice as reliable.

    Mike JackmanMike Jackman2 aylar önce
  • It's a bit like Panasonic's P2 card format for their professional video cameras. The early cards were basically PC Cards that had multiple SD cards in RAID 0 inside. (Makes sense when you're shooting 100 megabit HD video in the mid-2000s.) Their newer cards are all integrated flash, still in the old PCMCIA form factor. Later on they introduced the microP2, which are literally just U3 SD cards with a "Panasonic microP2" sticker on them. Pop a regular U3 SD card in and it will work just the same. Only Sony seems to produce their own media almost completely in house these days, but that's just been Sony's M.O. from the beginning. Sometimes I swear they invent a new storage format, then come up with new devices to justify it.

    NeedfuldoerNeedfuldoer2 aylar önce
  • Damn in Linus! This is why I love you brother! You a bad man!

    Lou ReyesLou Reyes2 aylar önce
  • Step 2, xxxxxxx Step 4, xxxxxxxxx Ah yes, *math*

    Kenny's Bus DrawingsKenny's Bus Drawings2 aylar önce
  • To obtain a patent in the USA you only have to change 10% of how anything functions. That's it, 10%.

    AxeMastersINCAxeMastersINC2 aylar önce
  • who the crap pays 2 grand for a 1b ssd? 8/10ths of the price is pretty much for the name only.

    DBGDBG2 aylar önce
  • How does post scheduling work? ;) trvision.net/detail/video-nqJXu4K1igg.html

    Steven StarlinSteven Starlin2 aylar önce
  • i only opened this video because every tme i see the thumbnail i always ask myself why the fuck linus is holding a pack of cigarettes

    Paolo Di GualtieroPaolo Di Gualtiero2 aylar önce
  • When you work it into your product not to work at full capacity unless your specific macguffin is the macguffin used you know you're in the wrong.

    R. RodriguezR. Rodriguez2 aylar önce
  • I feel ripped off and I have no idea what he just said.

    Larik SonfarLarik Sonfar2 aylar önce
  • Didn’t even mention how overpriced it is and how they got nothing into it and how they fake the capatecity !!!!

    John KelfyJohn Kelfy2 aylar önce
Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story