The Voice of REason: Why the Cardinals Can't Walk It Back with Josh Rosen | The Rich Eisen Show


  • And the haters are hating but will be a bunch of ban wagon fans lol watch kyle murray film if your taking it personal which is dumb rosen is gone let it go n start watching some real qb play.

  • If Rosen takes off in Miami I imagine he will hold a career-spanning grudge against the Cardinals. Those rare meetings should probably be watched.

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  • Guess what Rich? Arizona took Murray #1. Guess you were just running your gums.

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    • And being watched by many people AND paid extremely well to do so.

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  • Yesterday, (last night) Kyler Murray went #1. Charley Casserly's payola antics failed.

  • Called it like a Boss 💪

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  • No this is so dumb lol

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  • Pls Raiders dont get Murray. too many holes on the team to fill other than QB

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  • I think it’s highly suspect when you have a guy like Murray come in and dominate right after you have a guy like Mayfield dominate at the same exact school. To me it looks like it’s the system not quarterback. Kind of like when Miami and Florida had all these QB’s dominate one after another. I think Mayfield and Murray are just the modern day equivalent of Gino Torreta, Steve Walsh, Shane Mathews, Danny Wuerffel and all these other guys that looked great in college. Not to mention, anybody who drafts a QB with with the number 1 overall pick who’s under 6 2’ is a fool. It’s like a drafting a pitcher with the number 1 pick who throws under 95 mph. Don’t waste the number 1 pick on somebody you’re not absolutely certain is going to be probowler.

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  • I’ve been saying this for 2 months already

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  • I'm not sold on Rosen or any of the qb's in this draft, don't like what I'm seeing in Arizona at all really, Kingsbury was a great college qb, who knows if he can coach or not

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  • What if some team has been on the bait? Well, then, they will be getting a great athlete and quarterback. Murray is going to have a lot of success. If he stays healthy I don't see how he won't have some great seasons. He fantastic vision, wild hair short he makes throwing Lanes with his feet, he can throw the ball as well as at least the average quarterback in the league if not better. Throws guy is open. He will generally be the fastest guy or second fastest guy on the field for both sides. He just has something. He feels the game. I'm not even a fan of his or Oklahoma's but if you watch enough tape you see that this kid is truly a natural. Two of the top six quarterbacks are smaller guys in Russell Wilson and Drew Brees and the newest cool kid is also small and Baker Mayfield and now this kid comes along who is a better athlete than all of them and you has almost as a good of an arm. I think Murray sees the field as well as most of these guys and will continue to learn and improve.

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    Brandon HartleyBrandon Hartley6 aylar önce
  • For the people in the back. The cardinals are not taking Murray.... They are trading the first pick and building value for that pick. And all the media is going along with this for the headlines . They are trading back. And taking either greedy or quinnen williams

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    • U sure buddy?

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  • I've been predicting the Raiders trade up to #1 for Murray since February.

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    • Cardinals will pick murray

      Chaz BustosChaz Bustos6 aylar önce
  • Is this Kinsbury's decision alone to make? Also, if the line is that bad can even Kyler Murray make up for its deficiencies? The NFL media is obsessed with everything new and shiny. They're so sure that the Cardinals HAS to draft Murray and he will be the be all and end all. I thought Kingsbury is a genius of offense but somehow Murray is the only person that can run his scheme?

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  • Anyone else working on their own trades to get Thursday night off?

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  • In my humble opinion. You don't want this kid running for his life. No QB likes to be hit I repeat no QB likes to be hit. I would stick with Josh Rosen and building offensive line. A running QB haven't won a Superbowl in how long. Cam might be the last running QB you will see in a Superbowl. the only thing that concerns me about Kyler Murray is that I don't think he can take a 16 game punishment. If they take him without a line in front of him, and he starts taking hits it's over.

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  • So why u guy's think the answer is to draft another QB instead of drafting a o-line that can better protect the one they have? 😕 Lol ion get you guys

    PoseidonPoseidon6 aylar önce
    • @Poseidon yes, but only if they trade down, as it makes no sense drafting OL at #1, and all the decent free agents are gone by now.

      Tsachi GranotTsachi Granot6 aylar önce
    • @Tsachi Granot they could get at least 2 good o-line man out the draft and they could pick up a free agent or 2

      PoseidonPoseidon6 aylar önce
    • Because the Cardinals will have to trade down to achieve this, so they must pump up Kyler Murray's value as much as possible to get all the OL's they need.

      Tsachi GranotTsachi Granot6 aylar önce
  • I just can not imagine no one going after Rosen. He would be the #2 QB in this class behind Murray, he has already been paid a huge chunk of his rookie contract by the Cardinals, so you would be getting him super cheap.. Why on earth would anyone take Haskins over Rosen in the first place especially when you would have to pay a lot of more for him and use a higher draft pick to get him.

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  • i hope Oakland trades up to take Kyler #1. Because I think he's worth every penny. Derek Carr has been rocky to be nice. and can you imagine that locker room with Gruden, Kyler and AB?

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  • Lol thats just funny wow he made throws in practice not even voluntary work out oh lets keep him now his tb now what a joke. Kyle will smoke this haters

  • Rich have fun in Nashville on Thursday night!

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  • 😳 Wait a minute! The raiders? That’s was damn good! They need him. Like bad they can’t go to Vegas with Derek Carr! They need a headliner quarterback. Wow the plot thickens!!

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  • What about Tua Tagaviola? Do you think NY Giants are waiting for him, so they will not pick a QB this time either? He is up for the 2020 draft and Trevor Lawrence is up for the 2021 draft. Do they dare to suck for two years just to get the first pick?

    Tony DrozdjekTony Drozdjek6 aylar önce
    • @Matt Perry Maybe, Tua looks good, but there will be suprises, thats for shure

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    • Dolphins will be the worst team in the league this year. They are clearly tanking for a top QB in the 2020 draft. I’d have to imagine Tua would be at the top of their board

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    • @Arca Jeth Maybe, this up comming season will show us that

      Tony DrozdjekTony Drozdjek6 aylar önce
    • Herbert is the best qb coming out next year..

      Arca JethArca Jeth6 aylar önce
    • @Nathaniel Baxter Not if that is what NYG owner wants, long term build - long term sucsess, they can build a future around the comming QB... IF they dare to wait another year or two

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  • STFU. Raider Nation will not stand for this abuse of draft capital.

    Rick EpperleyRick Epperley6 aylar önce
  • Klingsbury said one time pre game in college that he would pick Murray. Never said a word after that. It has been pundits riding this rumor train.

    Rick EpperleyRick Epperley6 aylar önce
    • Guess the rumor was true

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    • Knock knock!!

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  • My theory the raiders move up to draft Murray and Jon gruden trades Derek Carr to his baby brother jay and the redskins

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    • The way Gruden judges quarterbacks, tells me he just isn't that interested in betting his contract on Murray. Murray will bust and go into baseball.

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    • Rick Epperley I agree that is the hurdle. But front offices find ways to figure it out.

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    • Redskins don't have the cap to pay Carr. Remember Alex Smith's contract is still alive and well.

      Rick EpperleyRick Epperley6 aylar önce
  • Would it be crazy to draft Kyler Murray and keep Rosen and let them compete to be the starter? I Keim't be the only who thought of that

    Pedro MouraPedro Moura6 aylar önce
    • @Pedro Moura Now I hope the kid makes them deeply regret the move.. They did him dirty..

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    • Agreed but maybe they wanna try stupid haha they should still trade Rosen any time now@Arca Jeth

      Pedro MouraPedro Moura6 aylar önce
    • It would be stupid.

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  • Disgruntled Scout:Cardinals have to worry about the contract for Murray, costing the team a whole year, due to language in the contract hold up, which will cause him to not be signed until late August. Rookie Coach can't afford that delay. This is why, Murray wont get drafted 1st by the Cardinals. The raiders will swap out 1st and 4th picks with Arizona, Rosen is the Cardinals Guy going foward. They will take Quinten Williams with the 4th over all pick and get Savage with the 27th pick they get from Oakland. They will get a lineman (McCoy) with the 33rd pick.

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  • WHY would the Raiders trade up if Arizona is no longer interested in Murray? The Niners & Jets ARE NOT drafting him. And, I'd take my chances that no one is that in love with him to trade up to get him - too many question marks for that. As a Raiders fan, I will say, I'm NOW going to have NIGHTMARES that the Raiders took the bait and drafted him. It would signify the beginning of a disastrous 3-pick 1st round. They f*ck up & take Murray, it's all down hill from there.

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  • It'll be hilarious if Kyler was drafted by the raiders and be in Oakland lmao

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  • If Murray does go to Oakland, I see Carr being dealt to New York, Miami, or Cincinnati

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  • It can totally be saved with Josh Rosen, because he might have been in on the plan the talk up to pick.

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    • Joelle McFarland exactly. The only people who have talked about Murray being 1 is everyone other than Arizona’s staff. It fits perfectly into their plan IF all along it has been to try and get someone to trade for the spot. RE said it himself, at the combine Kingsbury assured Rosen to pay no attention to the outside noise. If they don’t take Murray at 1 the media is going to have a frenzy

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    • I don’t know that Rosen would be “in on it”, but I do think that the powers that be with the Cards (or SOMEONE) would say to him “hey, you are going to hear a billion and one things leading up to the draft. Unless it comes directly to you from Keim or Bidwill, Do. Not. Believe. Any. Of. It.” No third party/second hand word of mouth is going to be worth any more than the paper it’s printed on (metaphorically speaking, of course, since it won’t be printed, it’ll be tweeted...).

      Joelle McFarlandJoelle McFarland6 aylar önce
    • The teams high enough to be worth trading the #1 do not need a QB, you want to know you will get a top 5 pick now if you trade that pick. And trading for next years 1st can be a problem as we saw with the Raiders trades that will probably result in a bunch of picks in the 20s for Pro Bowl players. Rosen should expect this when your team finishes with the worst record in the league and you were an important part of that team. I also don't understand why someone needing a QB wouldn't give up a 2nd for him, in the past 10 years there have been few QBs selected beyond the 20th or 25th pick that ever showed anything beyond backup talent. A GM thinking they are getting a starter with such a pick is stupid, Rosen can be a starter, even a team like Buffalo could double their chances of having a starter for the next 5-10 years with a 2nd round pick.

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    • That would be a great scenario and I'd like to find it out it came out that way. I"m doubtful but it would be great.

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  • KM will not go 1st in this year's draft. In fact, he will not be drafted until late in the 2nd round. Also, Rich your logic is flawed. If the Cards do not have a O-Line that can protect a QB, you're solution for them would be to go out and get another QB? huh? Dude, do you hear yourself?

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    • If feels sweeeeeet

    • @SeaHawks Fan123 and what happened lol. Just be patient man all you haters need to stop. Rosen is gone. Where moving forward but u can stay behind like a this ppl who clearly dont want college football or film they just want to stay losing no matter if it meant keep rosen its like come on turn your brain on and understand what just happen. Your name looks pretty dumb lol

    • @MANU3L TAPIA III doesn't matter how many mobile qb are good exactly instead moving forward we are going back cardinals already drafted qb last season will be a waste of a pick on same position twice doesn't help

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    • This is a horrible take.... kyler isnt dropping out of the top 6 picks of the draft he’s the best qb in the class by any metric

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    • This comment is not going to age very well

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  • Murray is gone number one... Jos Rosin aint gonna cut it in that brutal division. The Cardnals defense is pretty good but the offense stinks... Murray finally gets a goood defense that can hold a lead... There are DTs all over this draft up until the third round... Get a trade for rosin and get a DT. YOU ARE NOT LOOSING A THING BY PASSING A DT TO UPGRADE A QB!

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    • Your moms a downgrade 😆 this clueless fos believe in rosen let him go. Kyle will go 1 n all you dummies will just show how dumb u r. Thank you 😆

    • Murray would be a downgrade. 😂

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    • A lot of typos

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  • Bosa is injury prone and will be a bust

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  • Murray is not an NFL quarterback...just isn't a leader of men

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    • Mitchell Lauderdale o really? You were one one of his teammates? Do tell

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  • Raiders are acting interested, so NYG will bid more to get no1 ;)

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  • One could be a back up.

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    • They have completely different styles

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  • 6:00 to 7:00 the greatest plugger and transitionalist in the industry. Mr. Rich Eisen. . .

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    • Ishmael Thompson He's brilliant, for sure!

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  • You have franchise QB. Now get defensive centerpiece in Williams or Bosa.

    TMack 88TMack 886 aylar önce
    • @TMack 88 It's true that Lincoln Riley and Klingsbury come from the same Mike Leech Air Raid coaching tree, but Rosen is wholly capable of running an Air Raid offense. Murray was an anomaly. Most Air Raid QBs besides Mahomes and Murray are pocket passers. Alex Smith as a good example. Look it up yourself. People saying Air Raid is an RPO scheme, don't know much about football.

      Rick EpperleyRick Epperley6 aylar önce
    • @jaden wyatt heres the thing with Murray if Kingsbury not head coach he wouldn't be considered no. 1 pick. Do you really want this guy to lead your franchise?

      TMack 88TMack 886 aylar önce
    • No they’ll follow the hype and they want a qb that’ll carry the team like Aaron Rodgers does Green Bay

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  • You need a new career counselor. That Jr. High School girl's advice is really starting to bleed into your 'craft'. Petty sensationalism doesn't suit you.

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  • juicy

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  • Well that was 8 minutes of trash... 🤦🏽‍♂️

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  • Every journalist is going to write some long-winded conspiracy story about how they were misled if Kyler doesn't go first overall

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  • Hoping my cards don’t give up on Rosen! Either trade pick with Raiders or take Bosa!

    DatBoySweetsDatBoySweets6 aylar önce
    • Quinnen is the better prospect and the better fit in Arizona but otherwise I agree.

      Tom HagenTom Hagen6 aylar önce
  • Raiders trade 4 27 and 5th this year plus a 2nd next year draft Murray then proceed to to trade Derek Carr to the Redskins for a 2nd round pick this year and 3rd next year. Then Murray goes 1 Bosa goes 2 Williams goes 3 then the cardinals trade from 4 to the 11 and draft the Bengals draft Haskins and the Cardinals get 11 plus a 3 and a 4 this year plus a first and a and 5th next year.

    Mitchell DeMossMitchell DeMoss6 aylar önce
    • He isn't worth that much, not even close.

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  • Imagine how good Kyler Murray will be when NFL turns into flag football.

    Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • lyle swavel Kyler Murray doesn’t take hits

      Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • Flag football in the pocket quarterback , but when you run, knock out punch

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    • D C i reluctantly agree..

      Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • It's close to being flag football already, they outlawed the blindside block this yr, they get paid big bucks for entertainment and taking the risk to play. Pussifying the nfl is going to hurt this game tremendously, I'm a superfan and I could hardly stand it last season. I think refs are told to make calls to keep games close for ratings and I'm at 95% positive on that in my head

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    • That's part of his value, in the past his size would make people think he would get physically beat up, that is no longer a issue and QBs today only get beat up if they want to.

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  • Kyler Murray has a chance to smash the position and become a top 3 NFL QB within a few years. With the NFL trending towards less violent contact and protecting players.. Murray is a potential generationally defining talent. No way to pass up.

    Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • Arca Jeth no, i compared his feet and speed, he doesn’t run like Sanders.. all you are offering as a counter argument is “he’s not big enough” so far, not impressed

      Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • @Han Sagan Now you are comparing his running ability to Barry Sanders? You have an unrealistic view of this kid...

      Arca JethArca Jeth6 aylar önce
    • Arca Jeth then why don’t you consider him an elite prospect if the prospect of being ‘frail’ isn’t an issue? Runs a 4.3 40 with Barry Sanders feet and a cannon for an arm with great accuracy and even greater college #’s than Mayfield.. u cray, even if I like Herbert fine

      Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
    • @Kevin R There may not be many fans that would take him over Tua, but I guarantee after next season and the combine, the NFL team with the first pick will.

      Arca JethArca Jeth6 aylar önce
    • @Han Sagan Most quarterbacks no longer take a ton of big hits, how oes that make him special?

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  • Rich certainly has a point! I for one not banking Murray and the Cardinals

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  • goddam I wish it was Thursday. I can't take the wait any longer

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    • George G finally here! Just a couple more hours lol

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    • @Mitchell D lol

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    • Why the swearing and God's name in vain? Stop

      Mitchell DMitchell D6 aylar önce
  • With a huge selection of coaches to choose from, the Cardinals choose Kliff Kingsbury. Horrible offensive line couldn't protect Josh Rosen. Now they will go after Kyler "Run for Your Life" Murray. Some franchises are going to be mediocre forever -- especially in this division!

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    • Ok so i guess we make you the qb right becuz your the better option. Kyle is a pocket qb n will run if he has to n help n make cards better. Rosen will just throw over receivers all day n get sack. Your moms mediocre 😆

  • Thursday is gonna be VERY interesting.

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  • This is why Arizona is a mediocre franchise. Bosa or Williams should be #1 pick.

    Stacee JaxxStacee Jaxx6 aylar önce
    • @Jesse Hawkins maybe you should, his dad flamed out of the league in 3 seasons after blowing out his knees, brother is always injured, now he just missed the season with a core injury. He's an injury guy from a family of injury guys.

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    • @theocratickingdom30 your mom will 😆

    • theocratickingdom30 Nope.

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    • Murray will make sure the cards stay at the bottom.

      theocratickingdom30theocratickingdom306 aylar önce
    • Hell no.

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  • The only explanation for the Raiders being suddenly so secretive is because they're cooking up something. All those first round picks are looking pretty appetizing for Arizona.

    Rubben DelgadoRubben Delgado6 aylar önce
    • No, Reggie McKenzie's twin brother is one of these scouts. These are all RegMac's scouts about to be fired. Ian Rapaport and Vic Tafur are notorious at getting leaks from the Raiders. Most likely from these same scouts. But must be something really surprising or nefarious cuz, reasons. Rapaport himself is the one starting this rumor. Butthurt that his leaking sources have been sent home. I can see Gruden being this stupid but Mayock, no. Even if Gruden has a hard on for Murray, besides AZ, who is he competing against? He'll drop to 4. No need to lose draft picks to trade up. 49ers are staying pat, Jets might trade out, but the team that does trade up will be coming for Haskins, Williams or Allen, not Murray. Der de der....

      Rick EpperleyRick Epperley6 aylar önce
    • Raiders scouts were hired by the former GM who was fired. They don't trust them to see their final board. They won't be bringing most or all of them back, that's why they are doing it.

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    • Rubben Delgado Arizona ownership was upset to have missed out on Russell Wilson and wants Kyler Murray. Rosen is very good, and I think the Cards should keep Rosen and let him gain value under Kingsbury for a year anyway.

      Han SaganHan Sagan6 aylar önce
  • THIS is what I’ve been screaming for 2 months!!! If the Raiders want him, they can stay at 4, unless the Giants or another team are also trying to get up for him. If the Cards keep #1, it’ll be Bosa or Williams. It will not be Kyler. The value just isn’t there, unless they get crazy value for Rosen.

    Brandon CyrusBrandon Cyrus6 aylar önce
    • Brandon Cyrus lmao u ain’t getting bosa u don’t even run a 4-3 or a wide 9

      Spindle ProdigySpindle Prodigy6 aylar önce
    • Flat out wrong...we are keeping the pick and drafting murray period.

      Chaz BustosChaz Bustos6 aylar önce
    • @MANU3L TAPIA III , "n its KYLE not kyler", yes I'm sure some mo mo that doesn't even use correct grammar is the only person who knows Murray's correct name and everyone else is just incorrect.

      Tom HagenTom Hagen6 aylar önce
    • Hate to break it to you guys, but Murray is probably going to fall to the Dolphins. Don't be shocked.

      Charles GallupCharles Gallup6 aylar önce
    • I swear this fos that dont know sht at all n its KYLE not kyler. Watch the film you dummie your slow if you dont put 2 n 2 together n know his a special qb. If the cards want to get a number one pick again nxt year stick with rosen because he will make you a contender for the worst team for life 😆

  • Yes! Raiders could be that this take

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    • I hope not.

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  • Eisen is a stone cold killer when giving takes. Best in the business.

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    • That mad scientist feel

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    • Absolutely agree, the best!

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    • PopCornJolly da best by far!!

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  • Hmmmmmm

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